reward money

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Hey All, Congrats to anyone who has or is in the process of quitting. Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved from not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves. The first time I quit I got a tattoo after 6 months (nothing smoking related). I’ve just hit my one year mark (second quit attempt) and although I feel like I *could* have spent over 2000 dollars, being an unemployed student I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Instead I went for a much cheaper DVD/MP3 player. I’m loving it – of course not as much as the feeling of clean clothes, mouth, fingers and lungs! I think I"m gonna go get my teeth whitened too! Keep it up all One year, one week, three days, 10 hours, 8 minutes and 32 seconds. 5631 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,145.27. Life saved: 2 weeks, 5 days, 13 hours, 15 minutes.

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Want a full accounting or just the highlights? The two major things: 1. Lemond Nevada City road bike ($1,100) 2. Dell Dimension XPS computer ($3,300) A few other minor things along the way, in addition to the smokefree fund is paying for my monthly fitness center membership. I’ve saved $5,652, or which $480 is left. I can attest that I’ve had a *lot* more fun spending this money on what I’ve spent rather than spending it on the continuing ruination of my health. Lee OF

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey All, > Congrats to anyone who has or is in the process of quitting. > Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved from > not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves. > The first time I quit I got a tattoo after 6 months (nothing smoking > related). I’ve just hit my one year mark (second quit attempt) and although > I feel like I *could* have spent over 2000 dollars, being an unemployed > student I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Instead I went for a much > cheaper DVD/MP3 player. I’m loving it – of course not as much as the > feeling of clean clothes, mouth, fingers and lungs! I think I"m gonna go > get my teeth whitened too! > Keep it up all > One year, one week, three days, 10 hours, 8 minutes and 32 seconds. 5631 > cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,145.27. Life saved: 2 weeks, 5 days, 13 > hours, 15 minutes.

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New computer (DellXP $3000) Camcorder ($500) Vegas trip (no clue…don’t wanna know) hockey skates for my 3 boyz (can’t remember) Numerous shoes for me from Nordies ($XXXX) Vegas trip in May (gonna come home w/ $$, right??) Consumerism rawks Smoking sucks. Joy blah blah+ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Want a full accounting or just the highlights? > The two major things: > 1. Lemond Nevada City road bike ($1,100) > 2. Dell Dimension XPS computer ($3,300) > A few other minor things along the way, in addition to the smokefree fund is > paying for my monthly fitness center membership. > I’ve saved $5,652, or which $480 is left. I can attest that I’ve had a > *lot* more fun spending this money on what I’ve spent rather than spending > it on the continuing ruination of my health. > Lee > OF > Hey All, > Congrats to anyone who has or is in the process of quitting. > Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved from > not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves. > The first time I quit I got a tattoo after 6 months (nothing smoking > related). I’ve just hit my one year mark (second quit attempt) and > although > I feel like I *could* have spent over 2000 dollars, being an unemployed > student I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Instead I went for a much > cheaper DVD/MP3 player. I’m loving it – of course not as much as the > feeling of clean clothes, mouth, fingers and lungs! I think I"m gonna go > get my teeth whitened too! > Keep it up all > One year, one week, three days, 10 hours, 8 minutes and 32 seconds. 5631 > cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,145.27. Life saved: 2 weeks, 5 days, 13 > hours, 15 minutes.

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smokes ,but after 45 days I am going to get a message big leoThree days, 15 hours, 41 minutes and 46 seconds. 73 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3.65. Life saved: 6 hours, 5 minutes.

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> New computer (DellXP $3000) > Camcorder ($500) > Vegas trip (no clue…don’t wanna know) > hockey skates for my 3 boyz (can’t remember) > Numerous shoes for me from Nordies ($XXXX) > Vegas trip in May (gonna come home w/ $$, right??) > Consumerism rawks > Smoking sucks. > Joy > blah blah+

Hey Joy!! Good to see you around, me=lurking while things blow over… TonyK

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Lots… I calc. I need to stay quit for another 28 years to cover what I spent in the past 18 months. BBQ, Chainsaw, DVD & AV Amp, Car etc etc etc Tony

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Joy? No new leather jacket in there? Or just not yet? Vegas again, cool. We’re mulling a trip there in ‘05. Not sure where to stay yet. Was the Luxor last time; not bad, not very good. Maybe the Mirage? Lee OF

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> New computer (DellXP $3000) > Camcorder ($500) > Vegas trip (no clue…don’t wanna know) > hockey skates for my 3 boyz (can’t remember) > Numerous shoes for me from Nordies ($XXXX) > Vegas trip in May (gonna come home w/ $$, right??) > Consumerism rawks > Smoking sucks. > Joy > blah blah+ > Want a full accounting or just the highlights? > The two major things: > 1. Lemond Nevada City road bike ($1,100) > 2. Dell Dimension XPS computer ($3,300) > A few other minor things along the way, in addition to the smokefree fund > is > paying for my monthly fitness center membership. > I’ve saved $5,652, or which $480 is left. I can attest that I’ve had a > *lot* more fun spending this money on what I’ve spent rather than spending > it on the continuing ruination of my health. > Lee > OF > > Hey All, > > Congrats to anyone who has or is in the process of quitting. > > Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved > from > > not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves. > > The first time I quit I got a tattoo after 6 months (nothing smoking > > related). I’ve just hit my one year mark (second quit attempt) and > although > > I feel like I *could* have spent over 2000 dollars, being an unemployed > > student I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Instead I went for a > much > > cheaper DVD/MP3 player. I’m loving it – of course not as much as the > > feeling of clean clothes, mouth, fingers and lungs! I think I"m gonna > go > > get my teeth whitened too! > > Keep it up all > > One year, one week, three days, 10 hours, 8 minutes and 32 seconds. 5631 > > cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,145.27. Life saved: 2 weeks, 5 days, 13 > > hours, 15 minutes.

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>Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved from >not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves.

hmm interesting thing this ‘money saved’ – I don’t seem to have actually saved up any, but otoh, I know that I feel better off. I can keep a tenner in my purse for days without having to spend it on cigs. Two things I have bought with quit money – a new bike – a digital camera C x — 11m+ – 01/02/03 – as3 kiwi kwitters feb ‘03 email/msn: clarrie grundy aatt hhoott mmaaiill ddoott ccomm

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smokes ,but after 45 days I am going to get a message big leoThree days, 15 hours, 41 minutes and 46 seconds. 73 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3.65. Life saved: 6 hours, 5 minutes.

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Hey Joy!! Good to see you around, me=lurking while things blow over… TonyK

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Lots… I calc. I need to stay quit for another 28 years to cover what I spent in the past 18 months. BBQ, Chainsaw, DVD & AV Amp, Car etc etc etc Tony

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>Just wondering what people have spent their money on that they saved from >not smoking? And how people have rewarded themselves.

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labadee question

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My wife and I will be visiting Labadee in February on the Explorer of the Seas. Some questions for those who have visited here before: 1. Should I leave my digital camera on board while we enjoy the beach? My thinking was I’d leave it in the safe until we were finished with our beach day then return to the ship, get the camera and return to the beach and get some pictures. Does this sound practical? How often will the tenders go back and forth to the ship? Do you have to pay to use the tenders? 2. We were planning on NOT booking any excursions for Labadee for that day. My plan is to just plunk ourselves down on the beach and enjoy. How accessible are the beach chairs? Should I plan on getting off the ship early and "grab" one or are there plenty of them around? 3. Is Labadee a place where one could wander and get some nice pictures or would you need to be wary of people bothering you? 4. I have heard that RCL serves up a BBQ. How was the food? Is there a charge for it? Does it run all day or just around lunch time? Thanks -Mike

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The BBQ lunch is out for a couple of hours or so. Great photo ops. Beautiful spot. Some excursions get sold out early such as parasailing and jetskies. More than enough beach loungers fewer hammocks. I will be back there early Feb while on Brilliance.

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We were just there. Beach is beautiful, there are lots of chairs, no vendors or anyone else will bother you; there’s a craft market which you’ll probably want to peruse – no pressure. Tenders run continuously and BBQ lunch is set up for approx. 2 hours. No additional charge for either. Can’t tell you about food since we opted to have lunch back on the ship. Arlene <—had really yummy ribs that day – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My wife and I will be visiting Labadee in February on the Explorer of > the Seas. Some questions for those who have visited here before: > 1. Should I leave my digital camera on board while we enjoy the beach? > My thinking was I’d leave it in the safe until we were finished with our > beach day then return to the ship, get the camera and return to the > beach and get some pictures. Does this sound practical? How often will > the tenders go back and forth to the ship? Do you have to pay to use the > tenders? > 2. We were planning on NOT booking any excursions for Labadee for that > day. My plan is to just plunk ourselves down on the beach and enjoy. How > accessible are the beach chairs? Should I plan on getting off the ship > early and "grab" one or are there plenty of them around? > 3. Is Labadee a place where one could wander and get some nice pictures > or would you need to be wary of people bothering you? > 4. I have heard that RCL serves up a BBQ. How was the food? Is there a > charge for it? Does it run all day or just around lunch time? > Thanks > -Mike

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> We were just there. Beach is beautiful, there are lots of chairs, no > vendors or anyone else will bother you; there’s a craft market which you’ll > probably want to peruse – no pressure. Tenders run continuously and BBQ > lunch is set up for approx. 2 hours. No additional charge for either. > Can’t tell you about food since we opted to have lunch back on the ship. > Arlene <—had really yummy ribs that day

They have the ribs on the ship’s buffet also? I did not know that. Thanks. Chris

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Labadee is actually a tiny peninsula off the coast of Haiti. There are 2 sides to the peninsula (obviously). The ocean side and a protected side. Most of the people go into the water on the protected side. There are several pretty coves. Lots of lounge chairs. The ocean side is much rougher, with signs warning people of things like ocean wildlife, rough surf, etc. There are a few people that will go on the water on the ocean side, but most stay on the protected side. I’m not sure what time you’ll want to be at the beach. If you won’t all be in the water at the same time, just bring the camera with you. If everyone wants to be in the water at the same time, I think it might be better to catch the first tender for photos, and then go back to the ship and get everyone else. Because of the sun’s angles, I’d suggest pics in the morning rather than toward the end of the day. The beaches there are nice, but it’s not a great place for water like the US Virgin Islands or Cayman. The two times I was to Labadee the water had very limited visibility. No coral and you really can’t see fish if the water is cloudy. It’s more a beach day than a snorkeling day. The best place for photos is the path that goes along the protected side. And make sure you go way out to the point to hear the dragon’s breath. –Tom

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife and I will be visiting Labadee in February on the Explorer of > the Seas. Some questions for those who have visited here before: > 1. Should I leave my digital camera on board while we enjoy the beach? > My thinking was I’d leave it in the safe until we were finished with our > beach day then return to the ship, get the camera and return to the > beach and get some pictures. Does this sound practical? How often will > the tenders go back and forth to the ship? Do you have to pay to use the > tenders? > 2. We were planning on NOT booking any excursions for Labadee for that > day. My plan is to just plunk ourselves down on the beach and enjoy. How > accessible are the beach chairs? Should I plan on getting off the ship > early and "grab" one or are there plenty of them around? > 3. Is Labadee a place where one could wander and get some nice pictures > or would you need to be wary of people bothering you? > 4. I have heard that RCL serves up a BBQ. How was the food? Is there a > charge for it? Does it run all day or just around lunch time? > Thanks > -Mike

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BTW From personal experience, USE SUNSCREEN.

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> > probably want to peruse – no pressure. Tenders run continuously and BBQ > lunch is set up for approx. 2 hours. No additional charge for either. > Can’t tell you about food since we opted to have lunch back on the ship. > Arlene <—had really yummy ribs that day > They have the ribs on the ship’s buffet also? I did not know that. Thanks. > Chris

Actually Chris, that was the one day we had lunch in the diningroom. Don’t know whether the buffet had them too. Arlene

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I an Island Special if you like frozen drinks > BTW From personal experience, > USE SUNSCREEN.

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> The beaches there are nice, but it’s not a great place for water like the US > Virgin Islands or Cayman. The two times I was to Labadee the water had very > limited visibility.

The two times * I * was there, more than one member of my family got bitten by jellyfish (the first time it was my husband and son, the second time me and my daughter — equal opportunity jellyfish, apparently)…not horrible, but certainly annoying. The water is clean enough and sure * looks * inviting, but from now on, if I’m in Labadee it’s OUT of the water. There are more than enough lounge chairs and lots of shade and sun. I didn’t find the bar-b-que buffet all that appetizing, but it’s certainly edible. I’ve never really even given thought to not bringing my camera, I just pack it up and put it out of sight when we’re doing other activities. I’m sure I’m naive, but luckily haven’t yet been ripped off. ~ Peri

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Hi Mike I have answered you after each question with my take on all this. IF this was already answered I am sorry! 1. Should I leave my digital camera on board while we enjoy the beach? No Make sure you take it with yoU! I always take mine keep it in my beach bag… >My thinking was I’d leave it in the safe until we were finished with our >beach day then return to the ship, get the camera and return to the >beach and get some pictures

takes too much time… not worth the standing in line ( and those lines get LONG) and going through the hassle unless you like doing that! . Does this sound practical? How often will – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->the tenders go back and forth to the ship? Do you have to pay to use the >tenders? >2. We were planning on NOT booking any excursions for Labadee for that >day. My plan is to just plunk ourselves down on the beach and enjoy. How >accessible are the beach chairs? Should I plan on getting off the ship >early and "grab" one or are there plenty of them around? >3. Is Labadee a place where one could wander and get some nice pictures >or would you need to be wary of people bothering you? >4. I have heard that RCL serves up a BBQ. How was the food? Is there a >charge for it? Does it run all day or just around lunch time? >Thanks >-Mike

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OOPS hit sent before I was done. >How often will the tenders go back and forth to the ship?

They continuosly go back and forth BUT the tenders are HUGE and can take 35 minutes or so to fill, Do you have to pay to use the tenders? No absolutely not 2. We were planning on NOT booking any excursions for Labadee for that day. My plan is to just plunk ourselves down on the beach and enjoy. How accessible are the beach chairs? Very Accessible, We like going to Barefoot beach, but the last beach near dragon rock is great, seems as though the first beach has lots of families. they also have a shuttle that goes from the tender pier to all the beaches and back all day, Should I plan on getting off the ship early and "grab" one or are there plenty of them around? The early bird gets the best location i think 3. Is Labadee a place where one could wander and get some nice pictures or would you need to be wary of people bothering you? You can wander and not be bothered. they do hav trails and paths and great photo Ops 4. I have heard that RCL serves up a BBQ. How was the food? We thought it was very good. something for everyone . Typical BBQ good ribs when we were on there last month, better then in previous months. there is also chicken burgers and Hot dogs, salads and condiments and desserts. Fruit Punch and water too adn soda for purchase Does it run all day or just Runs for a good part of the day From early Lunch time til a little while before the last tender to get them time to clean up Its Free Susette Join us on our Annual Group Cruise 04Dec04 Jewel of the Seas! Check out our website: www.cruiseoutlets.com

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When were you there Peri that you had a jelly fish problem? I ahve been to labadee 6 times never a jellyfish but the last time in September when I was in Cococay they were Swarming with jellyfish! I could not stand being in there that time as they were ALLL over. Susette Join us on our Annual Group Cruise 04Dec04 Jewel of the Seas! Check out our website: www.cruiseoutlets.com

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> When were you there Peri that you had a jelly fish problem? I ahve been to > labadee 6 times never a jellyfish but the last time in September when I was in > Cococay they were Swarming with jellyfish! I could not stand being in there > that time as they were ALLL over.

I have been to Labadee a few times and never saw Jellyfish there. Not much of any fish for that matter. But of course they could be anywhere from time to time. The last time I saw Jellyfish was at Chankanaab two years ago and there were enough that I did not stay in the water long. Yet mat all the other times at Chankanaab I never saw any Jellyfish. — Charles

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Hi mgb, They will have the ferry’s running all day, but it does take time, don’t think I’d advise going back to the ship for the digital camera and then back to the beach. We just buy a disposible underwater camera and use it for days like that, just don’t want to worry about loosing the good camera. We also pre-booked the waverunner excursion on-line before we left and glad we did, it does fill up and is tons of fun. I’d also suggest pre-booking a water mat, they are great for in the water and on the beach and they also sell out of those quickly, cost was $10 for the entire day, very worth it. There is plenty of areas to wonder around and take nice pics, a few different areas where you can get your BBQ lunch and drinks throughout the day. There is also an area where they have some local merchants selling their wares, beware, quite a few of them can get very agressive, that just completely turns me off and I walked out. Too bad, I would of bought something, there were some very interesting things, but I just don’t like being dragged down an isle to look at what they have and forced to purchase something, reminded me of being in Jamaica…. Its a great beach day, I always enjoy those lazy days at a beautiful beach, enjoy. Donna Tuesday Chat Host http://www.cruisemates.com

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>There is also an area where they have some local merchants selling their >wares, >beware, quite a few of them can get very agressive, that just completely >turns

I love that part of Labadee! You can bargain in there alot and I have fun with it. BUt bewARE You buy wood stuff here or jamaica it needs to have polyurethane put on it cause the wood cracks Susette Join us on our Annual Group Cruise 04Dec04 Jewel of the Seas! Check out our website: www.cruiseoutlets.com

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> BUt bewARE You buy wood stuff here or jamaica it needs to have >polyurethane put on it cause the wood cracks

Watch out for termites in the wood.

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They have the ribs on the ship’s buffet also? I did not know that. Thanks. Chris

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BTW From personal experience, USE SUNSCREEN.

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Actually Chris, that was the one day we had lunch in the diningroom. Don’t know whether the buffet had them too. Arlene

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I an Island Special if you like frozen drinks > BTW From personal experience, > USE SUNSCREEN.

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> The beaches there are nice, but it’s not a great place for water like the US > Virgin Islands or Cayman. The two times I was to Labadee the water had very > limited visibility.

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Susette Join us on our Annual Group Cruise 04Dec04 Jewel of the Seas! Check out our website: www.cruiseoutlets.com

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OOPS hit sent before I was done. >How often will the tenders go back and forth to the ship?

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>There is also an area where they have some local merchants selling their >wares, >beware, quite a few of them can get very agressive, that just completely >turns

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> BUt bewARE You buy wood stuff here or jamaica it needs to have >polyurethane put on it cause the wood cracks

Watch out for termites in the wood.

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How come I can't seem to get a photo of my back tattoo in focus?

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Every time I try it comes out fuzzy. It wasn’t happening with the digital camera so I tried with the old 35mm… and it comes out fuzzy again! Drat, curses etc etc. Anyway, this is still out of focus but it’s the best I have — http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clearwater/orange.gif — quite a lot of detail is lost. For example, you can’t really see that the stamens are highlighted at the tips in red, or the shadow effects of the watershading between & around the flowers and leaves. BTW my skin is rosy and my hair wet as I had just come out of a nice hot bath and not because of some other, less wholesome activity

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> Every time I try it comes out fuzzy. It wasn’t happening with the digital > camera so I tried with the old 35mm… and it comes out fuzzy again!

Could it be too close or not enough light? Maybe your tattoo is fuzzy? :)

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m> Could it be too close or not enough light? m> Maybe your tattoo is fuzzy? :) i don’t think you’ve been here long enough to remember iniquity – i think her name was alison. she was fun for a while. lish "you still don’t understand the reason 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> m> Could it be too close or not enough light? > m> Maybe your tattoo is fuzzy? :) > i don’t think you’ve been here long enough to remember iniquity – > i think her name was alison. she was fun for a while.

I had forgotten about her <probably for good reason>. — JSin Lost Generation Custom Tattoo To reply Kill the .idiot "Swing a little more on the Devil’s dance floor" -Flogging Molly

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> Every time I try it comes out fuzzy. It wasn’t happening with the digital > camera so I tried with the old 35mm… and it comes out fuzzy again!

I suggest using a different photographer . Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot. Louis Pasteur http://www.chaotropic.net

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> I suggest using a different photographer .

Well, it was the husband and, bless him, he has other skills

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> Every time I try it comes out fuzzy. It wasn’t happening with the digital > camera so I tried with the old 35mm… and it comes out fuzzy again! > Drat, curses etc etc. > Anyway, this is still out of focus but it’s the best I have — > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clearwater/orange.gif — quite a lot of detail > is lost. For example, you can’t really see that the stamens are highlighted > at the tips in red, or the shadow effects of the watershading between & > around the flowers and leaves. > BTW my skin is rosy and my hair wet as I had just come out of a nice hot > bath and not because of some other, less wholesome activity

The photo is out of focus. Either the photographer didn’t focus properly or was too close for the lens used. Besides, to show the detail in your flower one would have to be closer than was used in your posted photo. Fill the frame with the flower and then see if it can be focused. If it can’t, you may need one of two things, a MACRO LENS that can focus at closer distances than your regular lens OR perhaps a Diopter that you can put over your regular lens to also allow the lens to focus at those closer distances. Many digital cameras are autofocus and have a macro feature so they can focus at those closer distances. Why not take the photo with the digital camera and take the images on the card to a Sam’s. The prints they do are every bit as good as film camera prints. — Robbie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Every time I try it comes out fuzzy. It wasn’t happening with the digital > camera so I tried with the old 35mm… and it comes out fuzzy again! > Drat, curses etc etc. > Anyway, this is still out of focus but it’s the best I have — > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clearwater/orange.gif — quite a lot of detail > is lost. For example, you can’t really see that the stamens are highlighted > at the tips in red, or the shadow effects of the watershading between & > around the flowers and leaves. > BTW my skin is rosy and my hair wet as I had just come out of a nice hot > bath and not because of some other, less wholesome activity

Maybe the tattoo itself is out of focus. How good is the artist?

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Travel Photography Wanted

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Idarta Travel Images is a professional digital stock photography library supplying instantly downloadable digital travel images from around the world. Due to ongoing demand from its customers, it is seeking to expand its online collection of travel photography. If you have: 1. Original transparencies/slides, 2. High-res digital scans from transparencies/slides 3. High quality originals from a 5MP+ digital camera. We offer up to 80% of the license fee to you. Don’t forget to enter the promotion code GGROUPS when registering on the website to be entered into the quarterly prize draw for an exciting Apple iPod.

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Hi, Cheers! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Idarta Travel Images is a professional digital stock photography > library supplying instantly downloadable digital travel images from > around the world. Due to ongoing demand from its customers, it is > seeking to expand its online collection of travel photography. > If you have: > 1. Original transparencies/slides, > 2. High-res digital scans from transparencies/slides > 3. High quality originals from a 5MP+ digital camera. > We offer up to 80% of the license fee to you. Don’t forget to > enter the promotion code GGROUPS when registering on the website to be > entered into the quarterly prize draw for an exciting Apple iPod.

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Ping! Judith

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> We haven’t seen hide nor hair of you for days. > You ok?

Am here, am fine, ta for asking. Have been so busy with work that I’ve not had much time for posting, though I’ve been skim reading when I can. (Actually feeling rather sorry for self at all the work am doing these days. Am coming into the office to work all day Saturday and Sunday too. Sniff. Sob. Pity me.) Still not smoking! Was hit by a rather large craving last night after I finished my curry and sat back with a glass of wine, and thought – is this all there is? Isn’t there more coming? Isn’t that thing that I want a cig? Yes yes yes! I spent the next few seconds imagining actually having a cig. That it wouldn’t really make the dinner feel any more complete. And the craving was gone. Judith (wishing weekends were for fun again) Five months, one week, six days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 10 seconds. 4169 cigarettes not smoked, saving

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Worry worry worry

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Black Sheep: >I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while >there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since >it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X >Ray and lung function tests to see if >my emphysema is progressing. The >only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a >message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding >receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an >appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry.

… Sorry, Dawn Worry is awful, and I know sometimes we can’t help ourselves. Others have given you what I think is great advice: call your doctor and put him to work *for* you. >So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather >surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a >cigarette.

… That is so amazing. Way to go I hope it all turns out all right for you. (((((Dawn))))) —– Maddie, HOF

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>He he he. I had already seen that on your page, but I had forgotten >about it!

Yeah, it’s funny I don’t seem to have a picture of your fridge tho!

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>>He he he. I had already seen that on your page, but I had forgotten >about it! > Yeah, it’s funny > I don’t seem to have a picture of your fridge tho!

That’s because I don’t have a digital camera. :( — "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." –Edward Abbey — "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." – Theodore Roosevelt — http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/halloween.html http://home.earthlink.net/~goddessxena/index.htm

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>>The Real Axis Of Evil: Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft > Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: > http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html > Scroll down, it’s at the botton

He he he. I had already seen that on your page, but I had forgotten about it! — "A spokesman for the Lyon Group, producers of Barney and Friends, denied that Barney is an instrument of Satan." – The Advocate, spring 1994 — "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." – Theodore Roosevelt — http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/halloween.html http://home.earthlink.net/~goddessxena/index.htm

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>The Real Axis Of Evil: Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft

Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html Scroll down, it’s at the botton

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> Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: > http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html > Scroll down, it’s at the botton

LOL! Thanks for the laugh. — Julie B. "The believing we do something when we do nothing is the first illusion of tobacco." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Good luck to you Dawn. I hope everything goes well for you. Morgan VOF+!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while > there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since > it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X > Ray and lung function tests to see if my emphysema is progressing. The > only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a > message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding > receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an > appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry. > Sure doctors are human, and deserve time to have a life of their own, but > once upon a time family doctors cared about their patients. Now they are > too busy seeing as many patients as the medical system will pay them to see, > but not one more. He’s just too busy to care about me for another three > days. Worry worry worry. > There’s no point in worrying out loud, what can anyone say except "I’m sure > you’re worrying over nothing." Hey, they may be right. I hope they are! > But here is a perfect place to share the worry, because everyone here > understands it. So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather > surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a > cigarette. In fact that is so far from my mind now that I only thought > about it because I was looking for a few final words to make this post "on > topic". > Dawn > VOF

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I’m pulling for you, lady. Hugs, -GX — It’s been 1 week, 4 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes and 28 seconds since I smoked my last cigarette. 235 cigarettes have not been choked, saving $58.89. Life saved to burn villages and torture others: 19 hours, 35 minutes. — The Real Axis Of Evil: Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft — "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." – Theodore Roosevelt — http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/halloween.html http://home.earthlink.net/~goddessxena/index.htm

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> There’s no point in worrying out loud, what can anyone say except "I’m sure > you’re worrying over nothing." Hey, they may be right. I hope they are! > But here is a perfect place to share the worry, because everyone here > understands it. So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather > surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a > cigarette. In fact that is so far from my mind now that I only thought > about it because I was looking for a few final words to make this post "on > topic". > Dawn > VOF

Glad you made this on topic Dawn dear Seriously, I would do what everyone here has said – call your doctor. It’s not good for you to sit around stewing – and hopefully the news will be good. Thinking of you hon…and hoping your little pohutakawas are doing well Hugs Paula

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This would scare me too. DG has a point. Why not call and just SEE if you can speak to your doctor? It’s worth a try, I think. Seems very unfair to make you wait so long while not knowing what’s up. Surely your doctor will understand that. Let us know, okay? I’ll be looking for your posts, Dawn. * * Goldie * *

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> I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while > there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since > it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X > Ray and lung function tests to see if my emphysema is progressing. The > only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a > message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding > receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an > appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry.

Call your Doctor. In my clinic I can call & speak to my Dr’s nurse anytime & then she relays the message & gets back to me. I had the same thing happen when waiting for liver function tests. The clinic schedules an appointment with a liver specialist due to test results. Got me thinking –WHAT THE HELL DID THE TEST RESULTS SHOW?????? Then the clinic calls & puts off the specialist’s appointment another week. After stewing a day I called my doctor. He put my mind at ease….the test results were normal. If I would have had to live with the doubt for a week it would have killed me. I was an emotional wreck after one day. Call your doctor and ask why the appointment. Put your mind at ease. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sure doctors are human, and deserve time to have a life of their own, but > once upon a time family doctors cared about their patients. Now they are > too busy seeing as many patients as the medical system will pay them to see, > but not one more. He’s just too busy to care about me for another three > days. Worry worry worry. > There’s no point in worrying out loud, what can anyone say except "I’m sure > you’re worrying over nothing." Hey, they may be right. I hope they are! > But here is a perfect place to share the worry, because everyone here > understands it. So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather > surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a > cigarette. In fact that is so far from my mind now that I only thought > about it because I was looking for a few final words to make this post "on > topic". > Dawn > VOF

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It’s maddening that doctors do this Dawn…. I’ll be thinking of you and thanks for the reminder that no matter what stress, strain or worry, there is never a good reason to light up. Take Care. Skyler 1yr+

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I don’t know about you, Dawn, but sometimes I forget that I have a RIGHT to speak to my doctor. Phone and ask to SPEAK to the Dr. Leave a message, and have him/her call you back. Just say, your receptionist scared me — should I be lighting candles here, or can I hold off on worrying till I see you on Friday? The doc will bill healthcare for the phone call, so you’re not asking for a favour. You’re asking him to do his job. Good luck, andn …….yeah……dont’ worry!! ;-P DG

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>I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while >there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since >it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X >Ray and lung function tests to see if my emphysema is progressing. The >only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a >message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding >receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an >appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry.

Ouch! Scary stuff indeed … I’d be pooing my pants by now if I was in that position, although quite irrationally. He probably just wants to see you to talk through your results rather than just send a letter. If he wanted to tell you you have something immediately life threatening your appointment would almost certainly be for today. >Sure doctors are human, and deserve time to have a life of their own, but >once upon a time family doctors cared about their patients. Now they are >too busy seeing as many patients as the medical system will pay them to see, >but not one more. He’s just too busy to care about me for another three >days. Worry worry worry.

It’s the receptionists I hate. They seem to think it’s their job to make sure nobody who calls the centre actually gets to see any of the doctors. Receptionist:<briskly> "Hello, medical centre." Patient:"Please can I make an appointment to see the doctor." Receptionist:"I can fit you in on Tuesday 30th December" Patient:"But that’s two months away … haven’t you anything sooner?" Receptionist:"Is it an emergency?" Patient:"Not yet, but it probably will be be by December." >There’s no point in worrying out loud, what can anyone say except "I’m sure >you’re worrying over nothing." Hey, they may be right. I hope they are! >But here is a perfect place to share the worry, because everyone here >understands it. So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather >surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a >cigarette. In fact that is so far from my mind now that I only thought >about it because I was looking for a few final words to make this post "on >topic".

I should think so too! We don’t like off-topic posts here. <j/k> Try not to worry, Dawn, it’s not going to make any difference, and it’ll just make you feel lousy until you finally get to see the doc. Be sure and post and let us know when you’ve been and it turns out to be an over-zealous receptionist. Lemming — Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/ ICQ: 8647501

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I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X Ray and lung function tests to see if my emphysema is progressing. The only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry. Sure doctors are human, and deserve time to have a life of their own, but once upon a time family doctors cared about their patients. Now they are too busy seeing as many patients as the medical system will pay them to see, but not one more. He’s just too busy to care about me for another three days. Worry worry worry. There’s no point in worrying out loud, what can anyone say except "I’m sure you’re worrying over nothing." Hey, they may be right. I hope they are! But here is a perfect place to share the worry, because everyone here understands it. So hang on to those quits you guys and gals. It has rather surprised me that I haven’t been at all tempted to calm myself with a cigarette. In fact that is so far from my mind now that I only thought about it because I was looking for a few final words to make this post "on topic". Dawn VOF

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>I had to see the doctor about a renewal for my thyroid meds, and while >there, asked about follow up on other health matters. Doc agreed that since >it had been a couple of years, it was time for some blood tests, and chest X >Ray and lung function tests to see if my emphysema is progressing. The >only one I’ve had so far is the X Ray. Today the doctor’s office left a >message on my answering machine to call, and when I did a harried sounding >receptionist said the doctor wanted to see me, and I could have an >appointment for Thursday afternoon. Why why why? Worry worry worry.

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>The Real Axis Of Evil: Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft

Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html Scroll down, it’s at the botton

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> Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: > http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html > Scroll down, it’s at the botton

LOL! Thanks for the laugh. — Julie B. "The believing we do something when we do nothing is the first illusion of tobacco." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Good luck to you Dawn. I hope everything goes well for you. Morgan VOF+!

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>>The Real Axis Of Evil: Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft > Read about the "Axis of Evil" here: > http://www.thebrackenfamily.info/html/silliness.html > Scroll down, it’s at the botton

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>He he he. I had already seen that on your page, but I had forgotten >about it!

Yeah, it’s funny I don’t seem to have a picture of your fridge tho!

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>>He he he. I had already seen that on your page, but I had forgotten >about it! > Yeah, it’s funny > I don’t seem to have a picture of your fridge tho!

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… That is so amazing. Way to go I hope it all turns out all right for you. (((((Dawn))))) —– Maddie, HOF

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That Princey thing…

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Man, that would be awesome…if you could post them online, physically sending them might be a bit of a hassle… — Kristoff Lajoie www.kristoff.4t.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> prince is an awesome guitarist and bassist, and seeing him a few times has > certainly been worth the effort. > but as a businessman, he’s definitely lost his mind charging outrageous > prices for shows and memberships to his online music club…not to mention > that he’s just gotten so terribly creepy these days. > he used to be a pure genius. > i’ve got a few recordings from friends that show off that *jammy* side of > those live shows. > want some copies? > c > Well…its Tuesday arvo and i just got back from uni…so….last night, i > didn’t get in I’m so depressed…the line up was unreal…. > Maceo Parker on sax!!! Arrrk!!! > Plus, John Blackwell on drums, Rhonda Smith on bass…and of-course, that > Prince guy was playing guitar… > But it wasn’t all his poppy stuff, they just funked the night away…man, > WHAT a line-up…woa… > AND I MISSED IT… > AND I LINED UP FOR FIVE HOURS, since 7:30…i’m so depressed..!!! BUT, Its > not all a big loss, becuase at about 12 midnight the band started > playing!! > We could all hear it from the outside, and man…WHAT A GROOVE, Prince > ain’t > a bad guitarist either… > But…i didn’t see anything, they had an iron door OVER the normal glass > door, so it was completely blocked off. > But i brought my digital camera and was able to record some movies with > sound…so they probbaly turned out really really really shit, and the > sound > quality is probably really terrible…but…well i’ll check ‘em out soon! > So…i’ve now HEARD Prince…but yet to see…but more importantly…Maceo > Parker!! Rhonda Smith!! Woa..!! > — > Kristoff Lajoie > www.kristoff.4t.com

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like i said, he’s a bit maniacal. if i posted this stuff online, he’d send me a nasty legal letter. he’s opposed to fansites, live recordings, and….just about anything he doesn’t have 100% control over. i’m all about turning people on to to cool stuff, i don’t mind sending it to ya. follow the links at thenewblacks.com if you want. c

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Man, that would be awesome…if you could post them online, physically > sending them might be a bit of a hassle… > — > Kristoff Lajoie > www.kristoff.4t.com > prince is an awesome guitarist and bassist, and seeing him a few times has > certainly been worth the effort. > but as a businessman, he’s definitely lost his mind charging outrageous > prices for shows and memberships to his online music club…not to mention > that he’s just gotten so terribly creepy these days. > he used to be a pure genius. > i’ve got a few recordings from friends that show off that *jammy* side of > those live shows. > want some copies? > c > > Well…its Tuesday arvo and i just got back from uni…so….last night, > i > > didn’t get in I’m so depressed…the line up was unreal…. > > Maceo Parker on sax!!! Arrrk!!! > > Plus, John Blackwell on drums, Rhonda Smith on bass…and of-course, > that > > Prince guy was playing guitar… > > But it wasn’t all his poppy stuff, they just funked the night > away…man, > > WHAT a line-up…woa… > > AND I MISSED IT… > > AND I LINED UP FOR FIVE HOURS, since 7:30…i’m so depressed..!!! BUT, > Its > > not all a big loss, becuase at about 12 midnight the band started > playing!! > > We could all hear it from the outside, and man…WHAT A GROOVE, Prince > ain’t > > a bad guitarist either… > > But…i didn’t see anything, they had an iron door OVER the normal glass > > door, so it was completely blocked off. > > But i brought my digital camera and was able to record some movies with > > sound…so they probbaly turned out really really really shit, and the > sound > > quality is probably really terrible…but…well i’ll check ‘em out > soon! > > So…i’ve now HEARD Prince…but yet to see…but more > importantly…Maceo > > Parker!! Rhonda Smith!! Woa..!! > > — > > Kristoff Lajoie > > www.kristoff.4t.com

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Well…its Tuesday arvo and i just got back from uni…so….last night, i didn’t get in I’m so depressed…the line up was unreal…. Maceo Parker on sax!!! Arrrk!!! Plus, John Blackwell on drums, Rhonda Smith on bass…and of-course, that Prince guy was playing guitar… But it wasn’t all his poppy stuff, they just funked the night away…man, WHAT a line-up…woa… AND I MISSED IT… AND I LINED UP FOR FIVE HOURS, since 7:30…i’m so depressed..!!! BUT, Its not all a big loss, becuase at about 12 midnight the band started playing!! We could all hear it from the outside, and man…WHAT A GROOVE, Prince ain’t a bad guitarist either… But…i didn’t see anything, they had an iron door OVER the normal glass door, so it was completely blocked off. But i brought my digital camera and was able to record some movies with sound…so they probbaly turned out really really really shit, and the sound quality is probably really terrible…but…well i’ll check ‘em out soon! So…i’ve now HEARD Prince…but yet to see…but more importantly…Maceo Parker!! Rhonda Smith!! Woa..!! — Kristoff Lajoie www.kristoff.4t.com

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Damn…i forgot… You can read about it here: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/20/1066631353007.html btw, i’m not in the photo! But i was around there somewhere! — Kristoff Lajoie www.kristoff.4t.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well…its Tuesday arvo and i just got back from uni…so….last night, i > didn’t get in I’m so depressed…the line up was unreal…. > Maceo Parker on sax!!! Arrrk!!! > Plus, John Blackwell on drums, Rhonda Smith on bass…and of-course, that > Prince guy was playing guitar… > But it wasn’t all his poppy stuff, they just funked the night away…man, > WHAT a line-up…woa… > AND I MISSED IT… > AND I LINED UP FOR FIVE HOURS, since 7:30…i’m so depressed..!!! BUT, Its > not all a big loss, becuase at about 12 midnight the band started playing!! > We could all hear it from the outside, and man…WHAT A GROOVE, Prince ain’t > a bad guitarist either… > But…i didn’t see anything, they had an iron door OVER the normal glass > door, so it was completely blocked off. > But i brought my digital camera and was able to record some movies with > sound…so they probbaly turned out really really really shit, and the sound > quality is probably really terrible…but…well i’ll check ‘em out soon! > So…i’ve now HEARD Prince…but yet to see…but more importantly…Maceo > Parker!! Rhonda Smith!! Woa..!! > — > Kristoff Lajoie > www.kristoff.4t.com

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prince is an awesome guitarist and bassist, and seeing him a few times has certainly been worth the effort. but as a businessman, he’s definitely lost his mind charging outrageous prices for shows and memberships to his online music club…not to mention that he’s just gotten so terribly creepy these days. he used to be a pure genius. i’ve got a few recordings from friends that show off that *jammy* side of those live shows. want some copies? c

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Trip Report – ABQ-ORD-RDU (AA)

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> That’s where I saw this: > http://www.growlery.com/bad_day_at_rdu_airport.htm > I was waiting for my bag to come out the chute, and I notice that some > guy’s leather suiter had come apart somehow. The leather looked new, > but it was torn up pretty badly. The guy’s suits had come out, and > bits and pieces were strewn about. Sad – I was sure glad it wasn’t > mine. I whipped out my digital camera and got a few pictures (see > link above), but they turned out pretty fuzzy – I guess I still hadn’t > woken up!

Ouch! That gray suit looks like it was expensive at one point! — Goliath & Wildwing’s Storage Room http://anatidae.homestead.com/

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Sorry, folks, this one is boooring… The day started at 3:30 a.m. in Albuquerque. My wife (bless her) woke up before me and put the coffee on. She got me up, but I had only had a few hours of sleep. For some reason, I could not sleep last night, so I didn’t get to bed until after 1:00 a.m. I then had a horrifying discovery that woke me right up… I tried to fire up my laptop, so I could download my email before departing, and it was stone-cold dead. No lights, no nothing. I got out my backup laptop, but discovered that it was not up-to-date. No Linux installed, none of my perl scripts that I had been writing for the client, nada. Argh. Backups. Yes. Backups good. No got. Bad. Give me coffee and a cigarette on the balcony. Somehow, after unplugging the power and removing the battery from my Vaio, it started working again. Sigh of relief. No idea why it was not working, or why it just started working again. I’m just glad that it *is* working. Pack the laptop, get the rest of the packing done. Get shower, more coffee, get dressed, head out for the airport at 4:30. Got a 6:15 flight, but also, the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta just ended, so I knew the airport would be full of "I never fly and don’t know how to get on a plane" types. I was right, but it was not as bad as last year, perhaps because my flight was much earlier this time around. Got my boarding pass with no problem, one checked bag. I use a plastic security tie now instead of a lock, and the TSA goons seldom molest my bag anymore. Had to fly AA instead of HP, because the ticket price difference was nearly $400. Gotta save the client money if we can… AA 1046, 6:13 a.m. in an MD-80. Not bad, I got an exit row. This does not recline, but I don’t usually mind that, and there was lots of leg-room. Not that it mattered, I was out cold the moment I sat down. Don’t recall take-off or even landing this time. I woke up when people started getting off the plane. Had a two-hour layover in ORD, which is fine. My flight in docked at gate H5, and my departing flight was due to move out from gate H3, which is fine. It could well have been a mile away, though, so the two-hour layover makes sense to me. I went outside and had a smoke, then grabbed lunch at the food court at Micky D’s. AA 1962, 12:11 p.m. in a Fokker F-100. Not too bad, it’s kind of like a very short 737. I was in 8F. The seat in front of me got the full recline treatment, but I didn’t know or care – once again, I was out cold pretty much from start to finish. I know I must have snored like crazy – I woke up with a sore throat and people staring at me. Hehehehe. Besides, there was nothing I could have done anyway – for some reason, my row was 3 big dudes, and I was the tiny one in the group. None of us could move a muscle, we were hemmed in. Got into RDU a few minutes late, at about 3:10 p.m. I walked out through security, and noticed that the TSA has no one guarding the exit – anyone could walk in through the ‘out’ gate. True, it is an ‘automatic door’ that opens and closes, but anyone could wait until it opens and then walk out through it. I looked around for someone to ask, but saw no security or police of any kind. Shrugged and went down to get my bag. That’s where I saw this: http://www.growlery.com/bad_day_at_rdu_airport.htm I was waiting for my bag to come out the chute, and I notice that some guy’s leather suiter had come apart somehow. The leather looked new, but it was torn up pretty badly. The guy’s suits had come out, and bits and pieces were strewn about. Sad – I was sure glad it wasn’t mine. I whipped out my digital camera and got a few pictures (see link above), but they turned out pretty fuzzy – I guess I still hadn’t woken up! My bag arrived, I got my rental car, and drove out to Wilson, NC. I’m holed up at the Holiday Inn Express now (there is no Marriott out this way), and now I gotta get some sleep – I’m beat. All in all, no problems to report. Just some poor guy’s luggage that got torn up, apparently by the airline. Lesson – leather suiters not a good idea for checked luggage. Best Regards, Bill Mattocks

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Dealer damaged car during service

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@titan.btinternet.com dies gedichtet: > OK so what if the client complains to the manager of the garage? It’s > probably a very difficult situation as its their word against yours….?

The question is: Do they want to keep you as a customer? Frank — please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Time Flies Like An Arrow – Fruit Flies Like A Banana

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> OK so what if the client complains to the manager of the garage? It’s > probably a very difficult situation as its their word against yours….?

Of course its a difficult situation, the manager will have to weigh up his knowledge of his techies and you as a customer. What car it is, did you by it from him, how old etc etc. Plus the sucker punch, does he feel he will lose a potential new sale to you and all the associated service work. If they definitely did it, tell them! and highlight the potential lose of your business. Good Luck Silver

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This happened to me about 2 years ago. The Service Manager and I reviewed the check-in chart and it was clear they had done it (in this case a couple of big dents). The Service Manager made a deal with me to repair the dents and arranged for a bunch of door dings to be taken out at his cost. I walked away happy. I recommend speaking with the manager and reviewing any check-in records they might have. Also, if you have any dated evidence (pictures, preferrably) of the car without the damage, you’re in great luck. Good luck to you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, > I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a > routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a > scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I gave > it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases? > Thanks

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Mine paid to have the car repaired at a body shop of my choice…in the end. JRE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, > I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a > routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a > scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I gave > it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases? > Thanks

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I would talk to the manager and than move on the local GM and than the local owner. After all that you will not be bringing your business back than make some noise standing in the bay where customers are checking in their cars for daily service. I might even tell a few if you strike out to take a note of the body condition before leaving the car behind. Yopefully the 2 or rd level of management will recognize that if you took the time to track them down, you must not be lying. later

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a > routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a > scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I gave > it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases? > Thanks

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I agree with Sharma. That is the orderly way of handling this sort of problem. The manager has more latitude and authority to handle situations where there may be no written rules or warranties. Lower level staff have no room to negotiate so it’s a waste of your time and theirs to debate the issue. I would just politely ask to speak with the manager. If the scratches are minor they can fix it so it looks perfect. Someone may have closed the lid using a hand that had ring on a finger. BTW, I always bring my digital camera with me when I leave my car for any work – even if it is for a few minutes. Garages are busy and crowded places – accidents happen all the time. I take pictures of the whole car at various angles and include a single detailed shot of each wheel before I hand over the keys. I do it right inside the dealership service ramp right in front of everyone. I was able to nail someone with this technique once. It was not a BMW dealer but a car rental outfit. Someone took the car I returned for a joy ride after I returned it on a weekend and they were trying to claim the extra mileage on the following Monday. I always take pictures of the car with surrounding background so there’s no mistake where and when the photos were taken. Digital cameras are really handy – new ones cost as low as USD 100. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I would talk to the manager and than move on the local GM and than the local > owner. After all that you will not be bringing your business back than make > some noise standing in the bay where customers are checking in their cars > for daily service. I might even tell a few if you strike out to take a note > of the body condition before leaving the car behind. > Yopefully the 2 or rd level of management will recognize that if you took > the time to track them down, you must not be lying. > later > Hi, > I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a > routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a > scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I > gave > it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases? > Thanks

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Hi, I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I gave it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases? Thanks

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>Hi, >I gave my E46 318i in to the new Scotthall BMW dealer on Saturday for a >routine service, however, I have just had a look at the car and there is a >scratch on the bonnet (near the BMW Badge) which was not there before I gave >it in for a service. What do dealers normally do in these cases?

Normally? Denial…

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@hercules.btinternet.com dies gedichtet: > What do dealers normally do in these cases?

They keep quiet and hope the client does not notice. I once had a bonnet slightly dented by a renault mechanic. I noticed, they promised to remove the dent and respray the bonnet. Then they noticed that the dent was very hard to remove, so I got a new bonnet (which was no benefit for me, because the new one performed exactly the same way the old one used to). — please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Time Flies Like An Arrow – Fruit Flies Like A Banana

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OK so what if the client complains to the manager of the garage? It’s probably a very difficult situation as its their word against yours….?

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I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m having some trouble – i can’t find a place to do it. I’ve already called venus and they said they’d do it with a straight bar (hello rejection) and ny adorned doesn’t do surface piercings. Pleasurable said they’d try it with pfte but it would be the piercer’s first time and I don’t know if I’ll be able to get there as it’s about an hour away. Tribal Ways in boston will do it but with a curved barbell, not a surface bar, and the guy was snooty on the phone. Masterpiece in framingham, mass. said to call back tomorrow and talk to rob but i don’t know if that’ll pan out. Keith, do you do them? I tried calling your shop but I don’t think I had the right number. It looks like I may have to wait for a convention or something to find someone qualified and experienced who will do it with a surface bar. Which is ok, but if anyone can suggest any other options for nj, ny, or mass., I’d really appreciate it. Cylence

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>I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m >having some trouble <snip all the (bleep)ing troubles>

Cylence, one thing that I hate about myself or would like to change is that I often say, "Oh, I’m going to do this…" and then don’t actually do it. Plans schmans. Procrastination sucks the big one. I think that you have the same problem. You’re all talk. Now it can be good to talk, but it’s also good to take action. Here’s my action: (which is, yeah, actually another example of "Oh, I’m going to do this…") If you get the vertical bridge, I’ll send $20.00 (U.S. money order) to the address of your choice. Stipulations? Yeah. Post a URL to r.a.b with a good pic (at least 640×480 pixels in size with the bridge of your nose and its brandy new piercing being the primary focus of said pic) of you holding a current USA Today or a Time magazine. I’m not asking you to spend money on a newspaper or a magazine. Just take your or a friend’s digital camera to a newsstand. Snap the pic and then back on the rack. — Curt http://iam.bmezine.com/?curt http://www.curtjames.com/

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C> I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m oh yeah, THAT’LL last. why bother getting a piercing you know you’re going to remove? especially one that will leave highly visible scarring IN THE CENTER OF YOUR FACE? how long have you been interested in this piercing? a couple of days? think more – there are many reasons it’s not common & why you’re having so much difficulty finding someone to perform it for you. lish "you’re like a rubik’s cube except 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m > having some trouble – i can’t find a place to do it.

I was going to write a book about how you shouldn’t do this as it wont work, but, fuck it, take responsibility for your own actions ,, do what you want. R

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> I was going to write a book about how you shouldn’t do this as it wont work, > but, fuck it, take responsibility for your own actions ,, do what you

want. Well, while the chances are certainly against this piercing working out on a long-term basis, it does happen sometimes. So, you may be a little quick to judgement here, Ray. But, I still agree with you…do what you want. Derek

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> qualified and experienced who will do it with a surface bar.

A surface bar may not necessarily be the best piece of jewelry for this piercing. It really depends upon the shape of your nose/head, and exactly where youw ant to do it. And, even with a surface bar, that piece of jewelry may still need to be tweaked to give you any real benefit. A curved barbell may not be a bad option for you. Just keep in mind that while surface bars are a GoodThing(tm) when used appropriately and used for the right piercing, they aren’t some sort of magical piece of jewelry that guarantees your surface piercing is going to heal. In fact, the odds are still in favor of the piercing rejecting within the first year. Best of luck. Derek

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> Well, while the chances are certainly against this piercing working out on a > long-term basis, it does happen sometimes. So, you may be a little quick to > judgement here, Ray. But, I still agree with you…do what you want.

Granted you have seen a "few" more of these than I, but I 12 years I know of very dam few horizontals that have held for more than a year and no verts that have lasted more than a couple of months. But as always, it only my opinion<G> Ray

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> I was going to write a book about how you shouldn’t do this as it wont > but, fuck it, take responsibility for your own actions ,, do what you

DL> Well, while the chances are certainly against this piercing working out DL> long-term basis, it does happen sometimes. So, you may be a little quic as far as i’m concerned, it won’t work on a long-term basis because our little cylence will realize she can’t work at burger king with that thing in her forehead. it has nothing to do with the chances of migration in this area. lish "it truly breaks my heart 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> as far as i’m concerned, it won’t work on a long-term basis >because our little cylence will realize she can’t work at burger king with >that thing in her forehead. it has nothing to do with the chances of >migration in this area.

She doesn’t need to get it, all she needs to do is to talk about it. It’s how she differentiates herself from all the teenagers with tongue and navel piercings that harass her all the time and assume they have something in common with her. nj"that and knowing all about real punk rawk bands"m "I was so tired all the world’s wonders might have bounced on the balls of my eyes without leaving a picture."

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NJM> She doesn’t need to get it, all she needs to do is to talk about it. NJM> It’s how she differentiates herself from all the teenagers with tongue NJM> and navel piercings that harass her all the time and assume they have NJM> something in common with her. you spelled "tounge" wrong. lish "& 1,000,000 other reasons 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> >I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m >having some trouble <snip all the (bleep)ing troubles> > Cylence, one thing that I hate about myself or would like to > change is that I often say, "Oh, I’m going to do this…" and > then don’t actually do it. Plans schmans. Procrastination sucks > the big one. I think that you have the same problem. You’re all > talk. Now it can be good to talk, but it’s also good to take > action.

And you don’t count calling half a dozen places asking if they do it action? Or reading experiences/looking at pictures on bme for over 6 months? Or talking to people with "odd" or "unusual" piercings about where they got them done and whether they were happy with them? The reason I haven’t gotten it done is that I cannot find a piercer capable of performing it. I would love to have it done right this minute but I’m not going to go run out and have some hack do it in the name of not being a "procrastinator". If you get the vertical bridge, > I’ll send $20.00 (U.S. money order) to the address of your > choice.

I don’t want your fucking money. Cylence

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> C> I’m interested in having a vertical bridge piercing done, but I’m > oh yeah, THAT’LL last. why bother getting a piercing you know > you’re going to remove?

because i’d rather look more like my inner image of myself for a few months than never. especially one that will leave highly visible > scarring IN THE CENTER OF YOUR FACE?

I already have facial scarring, and it doesn’t bother me. > how long have you been interested in this piercing? a couple of > days?

Probably ever since I saw a picture of it on bme, that’s got to be 1 1/2 – 2 years ago. think more – there are many reasons it’s not common & why you’re > having so much difficulty finding someone to perform it for you.

I’m certainly going to spend more time thinking about it. As for it reducing my work options, so far my septum and lip haven’t prevented me from getting jobs. Next year when I start co-op that may change, but that’s part and parcel of having facial piercings and I’ll deal with it when the time comes. Cylence

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>><snip> Procrastination sucks<snip> >I’m not going to go run out and have some hack do it in the >name of not being a "procrastinator".<snip>

Cool. > If you get the vertical bridge<snip> >I don’t want your fucking money.

Whatever. I’ve seen at least one vertical on IAM. Everyone on the planet should have an IAM account. Get one. —

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C> If you get the vertical bridge, > I’ll send $20.00 (U.S. money order) to the address of your choice.

C> I don’t want your fucking money. you’ll change your tune once you realize burger king won’t hire you with that thing in your forehead. "i don’t need to apply to fucking burger king." of course not. mommy covers the bills for now. give it time. lish "& 1,000,000 other reasons 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> oh yeah, THAT’LL last. why bother getting a piercing you know > you’re going to remove?

C> because i’d rather look more like my inner image of myself for a few C> months than never. right. whatever happened to that moron remaking himself into "my version of an angel"? what a tool that guy was. talk about rationalization. C> especially one that will leave highly visible > scarring IN THE CENTER OF YOUR FACE?

C> I already have facial scarring, and it doesn’t bother me. great! add more. nice fat hypertrophics are sex-x-x-y. > how long have you been interested in this piercing? a couple of > days?

C> Probably ever since I saw a picture of it on bme, that’s got to be 1 C> 1/2 – 2 years ago. yes, i’m sure you’ve been thinking about it & wanting it ever since then. i believe you! funny how your "inner image" doesn’t materialize until you see a mod on someone else. then it feels OH-SO RIGHT, huh. lish "who you don’t hurt 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> C> I don’t want your fucking money. > "i don’t need to apply to fucking burger king."

Also, lish accepts paypal. fr0glet

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>NJM> She doesn’t need to get it, all she needs to do is to talk about it. >NJM> It’s how she differentiates herself from all the teenagers with tongue >NJM> and navel piercings that harass her all the time and assume they have >NJM> something in common with her. > you spelled "tounge" wrong.

And "naval" as well. nj"did that hurt?"m "I was so tired all the world’s wonders might have bounced on the balls of my eyes without leaving a picture."

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> "i don’t need to apply to fucking burger king."

f> Also, lish accepts paypal. see! i changed my tune! lish "& help’s not short when you’re digging 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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> > oh yeah, THAT’LL last. why bother getting a piercing you know > you’re going to remove? > C> because i’d rather look more like my inner image of myself for a few > C> months than never. > right. whatever happened to that moron remaking himself into "my > version of an angel"? what a tool that guy was. talk about > rationalization.

call it what you will, but when i look in the mirror i’m disappointed that it’s not there. > C> especially one that will leave highly visible > scarring IN THE CENTER OF YOUR FACE? > C> I already have facial scarring, and it doesn’t bother me. > great! add more. nice fat hypertrophics are sex-x-x-y.

and treatable. if i was at a high risk for keliods it would be a different story. > funny how your "inner image" doesn’t materialize until you see a > mod on someone else. then it feels OH-SO RIGHT, huh.

i’m not going to lie and say that i envisioned myself having piercings when I was a kid or anything – it wasn’t until i realized my options that knew which ones i owed it to myself to pursue. Cylence

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<snip> > NJM> She doesn’t need to get it, all she needs to do is to talk about it. > NJM> It’s how she differentiates herself from all the teenagers with tongue > NJM> and navel piercings that harass her all the time and assume they have > NJM> something in common with her. > you spelled "tounge" wrong.

lish you failed to include the requisite spelling error in your spelling flame. 10 yrd penalty. — JSin Lost Generation Custom Tattoo To reply Kill the .idiot "Swing a little more on the Devil’s dance floor" -Flogging Molly

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> you spelled "tounge" wrong.

J> lish you failed to include the requisite spelling error in your spelling J> flame. 10 yrd penalty. technically, no, i didn’t. lish "i have holes poked in me 39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

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><snip> > NJM> She doesn’t need to get it, all she needs to do is to talk about it. > NJM> It’s how she differentiates herself from all the teenagers with tongue > NJM> and navel piercings that harass her all the time and assume they have > NJM> something in common with her. > you spelled "tounge" wrong. >lish you failed to include the requisite spelling error in your spelling >flame. 10 yrd penalty.

Quite the contrary. nj"extra points even"m "Endings to be useful must be inconclusive."

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