Robbery at St. Lucia's Windjammer-Landing: Anyone else had trouble?

Question:

Hello, My girlfriend returned from a week long vacation at the Windjammer Landing in St. Lucia (http://www.windjammer-landing.com/) with some bad news. Within just a couple of hours of arriving there, someone had broken into her room and stole a very expensive camera I bought her for Christmas last year (Canon Digital Rebel) along with some jewelry. She had left it in a bag while she went down to the lobby to get something to eat and when she returned she found a footprint that was left on a towel that was on the floor of her balcony. She realized that her camera was gone at that time. I am told the police where involved and that the resorts insurance will cover the camera and give her a reimbursement. Has anyone else had an experience like this? How did the resort handle it? Thanks, Tony

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Good luck with getting reimbursed. A lot of hotels wouldn’t cover that sort of thing. Thanks for posting the story. I’ve stayed at many hotels on various islands in the Caribbean and haven’t had a problem yet. They say that things are often stolen out of rental cars too. Be careful about that.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello, > My girlfriend returned from a week long vacation at the Windjammer > Landing in St. Lucia (http://www.windjammer-landing.com/) with some > bad news. Within just a couple of hours of arriving there, someone had > broken into her room and stole a very expensive camera I bought her > for Christmas last year (Canon Digital Rebel) along with some jewelry. > She had left it in a bag while she went down to the lobby to get > something to eat and when she returned she found a footprint that was > left on a towel that was on the floor of her balcony. She realized > that her camera was gone at that time. I am told the police where > involved and that the resorts insurance will cover the camera and give > her a reimbursement. Has anyone else had an experience like this? How > did the resort handle it? > Thanks, > Tony

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>Good luck with getting reimbursed. A lot of hotels wouldn’t cover that sort >of thing. Thanks for posting the story.

Hi, thanks for your reply. The hotel said they would reimburse but I must admit, I am skeptical this will pan out in our favor, which is why I am posting this message here.

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FYI for anyone who has an interest in how this dilema of ours pans out: At the moment we are waiting for a police report with a Seal on it. Once that happens, we will get a faxed copy and an original will be mailed to us. According to what the acting manager told my girlfriend, once they have the official police report, the Windjammer Landing can file a claim with their insurance company and we can get reimbursed for the items that where stolen from her Villa. Hopefully we will get that police report by the end of the week.

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> FYI for anyone who has an interest in how this dilema of ours pans > out: > At the moment we are waiting for a police report with a Seal on it. > Once that happens, we will get a faxed copy and an original will be > mailed to us. According to what the acting manager told my girlfriend, > once they have the official police report, the Windjammer Landing can > file a claim with their insurance company and we can get reimbursed > for the items that where stolen from her Villa. > Hopefully we will get that police report by the end of the week.

Oh! I see. You have to deal with petty beauracrats that are probably related to the thieves. Good luck.

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The website indicates the rooms had safes. In that case usually ther is some kind of waiver involved. I always use the safe and if whatever valuables I have that doesn’t fit in the safe, I lug around.A few safes nowdays are big enough to fit a laptop and thensome. Dumb not to use them.

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> Oh! I see. > You have to deal with petty beauracrats that are > probably related to the thieves. > Good luck.

The thought has crossed my mind unfortunatley. I really don’t see why a nation, a 1000 miles away would be willing to "play ball" with some American who got ripped off in their country. On the other hand, I have never been to the caribbean so I have no experience when it comes to the integrity of these people. Tony

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> I always use the safe and if whatever valuables I have that doesn’t fit in > the safe, I lug around.A few safes nowdays are big enough to fit a laptop > and thensome. Dumb not to use them.

She put all she could in the safe, including the telephoto lens she had but could not fit the camera unfortunatley.

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Have you checked with your Home Owners ins. to see if they cover it? I know mine will. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We’ve been having a hard time getting a hold of folks down there. We > got the run-around from the police. A very rude person told us to call > the police commisioner after several attempts of getting a hold of a > live person. It’s like they where ignoring the call then finally > decided to pick it up. Very strange. The Windjammer Landing has not > contacted us as of yet either and we’ve only been able to get > voicemail for those whom we need to speak with. I have a feeling this > is going to be a long, drawn out process which isn’t going get us > anywhere. I’m probably better off to start saving my money and buying > her another camera and just accept the fact that some low-life > criminal who works/worked at the Windjammer-Landing on St. Lucia made > off with a very nice camera among some other things that I paid for. > It’s sickening.

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Tony, you might give a heads-up to your travel agent about this incident. They might not be able to do anything about it but they can stop referring clients to it. You might also contact the Ombudsmen at National Geographic Traveler, Conde Nast Traveler, Travel & Leisure Magazine, and/or Epicurious. They may be able to help, although they get plenty of complaints from people every month. It couldn’t hurt, though. Good luck.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We’ve been having a hard time getting a hold of folks down there. We > got the run-around from the police. A very rude person told us to call > the police commisioner after several attempts of getting a hold of a > live person. It’s like they where ignoring the call then finally > decided to pick it up. Very strange. The Windjammer Landing has not > contacted us as of yet either and we’ve only been able to get > voicemail for those whom we need to speak with. I have a feeling this > is going to be a long, drawn out process which isn’t going get us > anywhere. I’m probably better off to start saving my money and buying > her another camera and just accept the fact that some low-life > criminal who works/worked at the Windjammer-Landing on St. Lucia made > off with a very nice camera among some other things that I paid for. > It’s sickening.

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> Have you checked with your Home Owners ins. to see if they cover it? I > know mine will.

Hi, thanks for your reply. We looked into that but our homeowners insurance does not cover it. There is some type of travelers supplement we would have had to purchase and even then, the deductible would have been $1000.00 which is as much as the camera cost minus the 512 Meg CF card it had in it. My girlfriend managed to get a hold of the police commissioners office down there and they said they had no record of it but promised to follow up on the ordeal. She also managed to talk to a couple folks at the Windjammer Landing, one of which was aware of the situation and assured her that the issue was being worked. That was a good sign and I was glad to hear that. Will post more as we learn more. Thanks for your interest, Tony

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I went to this web page just now: http://www.windjammer-landing.com/1-800-WLV-RESORT/contact/form.php And posted the following in the "additional comments" section: I thought you might like to know that right now, many people on the internet are reading about an experience that one of your guests had a week or two ago. I am including a message that was posted to the internet recently by them. If you care about your reputation I suggest you assist these people by helping them achieve a satisfactory solution. The experiences that these people have with your property will be readable by potential guests for years to come if they do a search for the WindJammer St. Lucia. Here is a link to their posting: http://tinyurl.com/5gmv2 "My girlfriend returned from a week long vacation at the Windjammer Landing in St. Lucia http://www.windjammer-landing.com/) with some bad news. Within just a couple of hours of arriving there, someone had broken into her room and stole a very expensive camera I bought her for Christmas last year (Canon Digital Rebel) along with some jewelry. She had left it in a bag while she went down to the lobby to get something to eat and when she returned she found a footprint that was left on a towel that was on the floor of her balcony. She realized that her camera was gone at that time. I am told the police where involved and that the resorts insurance will cover the camera and give her a reimbursement. Has anyone else had an experience like this? How did the resort handle it?"

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> And posted the following in the "additional comments" section:

Thanks for doing that for us friend. We’re hoping to hear from the Windjammer Landing sometime this week to find out if they have recieved the official police report yet and where to go from there.

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Keep us updated, Tony–thanks!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just an update for those interested: > My girlfriend called and spoke to someone named "Lillian" at the > Windjammer Landing and was told that their security office was still > working on it. That is all we know at this point. > We’ll be sending a certified letter soon after which we’ll try and > contact some of the travel editors mentioned earlier in the thread. > Tony

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> Keep us updated, Tony–thanks!

We sent the following letter as certified mail to the Windjammer Landing a few weeks ago and have not heard anything at all back from the hotel: October 1, 2004 Hotel Manager and/ or Owner Windjammer Landing Villa Beach Resort Labrelotte Bay P.O. Box 1504, Castries St. Lucia, West Indies To The Hotel Manager and/ or Owner: I recently vacationed at the Windjammer Landing Villa Beach Resort and had a wonderful time. The resort is beautiful and all of the staff was remarkably friendly and helpful. Unfortunately, one aspect of my stay at your hotel was not satisfactory. Some of my personal belongings were stolen from your property. I am writing this letter requesting your assistance in this matter which took place during my stay. The first night of my stay, my villa was broken into and personal items were stolen from my room. These items include one digital camera and all its effects, one pair of Oakley sunglasses, one pair of Nike pants, and one necklace. It was immediately brought to the attention of hotel staff and management and a police report was filed. Daily updates were provided to me regarding the progress of the investigation, and on day four I was told a suspect had been arrested. This suspect was a hotel employee. To solve this problem, I was told due to staff involvement your insurance company would reimburse me for the full amount. I am patiently waiting for a copy of the police report as well as the proper forms to be filed with your insurance company. I am looking forward to your reply and a swift resolution of this problem. Please do not hesitate to call me if there are any questions regarding this matter. I can be reached directly at xxx-xxx-xxxx or xxx-xxx-xxxx. Respectfully, Deborah xxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxx Melbourne, Florida xxxxx xxx-xxx-xxxx

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Duty Free Oz or Changi Airport?

Question:

I intend purchasing a duty-free digital camera, where would be best? Cairns or Changi airport.? I have two hours in Changi… thanks.. Links would be appreciated. ) — View my aircraft pictures: "http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753"

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Almost always a discount retailer in Australia (Ted’s Camera in Brisbane or Photocontinental – even JB HiFi have better digital camera prices than the duty free stores) other cities have similar outlets. Changi’s certainly not cheap!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I intend purchasing a duty-free digital camera, where would be best? > Cairns or Changi airport.? > I have two hours in Changi… thanks.. > Links would be appreciated. ) > — > View my aircraft pictures: > "http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753"

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> I intend purchasing a duty-free digital camera, where would be best? > Cairns or Changi airport.?

Give duty-free a miss. There’s no duty any more, just a 10% GST and the prices in the airport shops are usually jacked up 10% or more anyway to be about the same as what you can get outside. http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/category6_1.htm and http://www.dutyfree.com.au show a wide range of cameras. > — > View my aircraft pictures: > "http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753"

Nice pix. What are you using to take them?

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> http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/category6_1.htm and > http://www.dutyfree.com.au show a wide range of cameras.

And in New Zealand … http://www.digitalcameras.co.nz/grouplist.cfm …. Muz

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> I intend purchasing a duty-free digital camera, where would be best? > Cairns or Changi airport.?

To be honest I wouldnt bother. You’ll save the VAT but I’ll bet the airport duty free has a suffuciently higher profit margin that’ll swallow that. You can probably save as much buying from an on line discount store in the UK and that way you can be sure that the guarantee is valid and HM Customs and Excise wont mug you on your return to the UK. Keith

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> I intend purchasing a duty-free digital camera, where would be best? > Cairns or Changi airport.? > I have two hours in Changi… thanks.. > Links would be appreciated. )

I looked closely at camera prices when passing through Changi in February and was extremely disappointed (also with most other things). No real saving over UK discount prices, and what was there was cheaper in Hong Kong! Paul

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> Almost always a discount retailer in Australia (Ted’s Camera in > Brisbane or Photocontinental – even JB HiFi have better digital camera > prices than the duty free stores) other cities have similar outlets. > Changi’s certainly not cheap!!

I second that, and I second JB Hi-Fi. They are all over the place now (I don’t think Cairns, but they are in Brisbane and the Gold Coast). Find a camera you like and haggle hard. They will always drop their prices to please. L.

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>You can probably save as much buying from an >on line discount store in the UK and that way >you can be sure that the guarantee is valid >and HM Customs and Excise wont mug you >on your return to the UK.

Many thanks to all for their input.! I have decided to purchase online from the UK’s 7dayshop.. — View my aircraft pictures: "http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753"

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Lost Luggae Payouts increase.

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> :>I never have figured out how they do customs when international baggage > :>is late but it does appear to get delivered. > Normal green line random checking (unless, of course, you declare something > within the bag). > The airline will usually ask for the keys when you report it missing. In > Israel, if the bag is locked, customs may x-ray it for electronics that may > require duty.

The two times I remember they didn’t even ask if it was locked. And both occurred when bags were commonly locked.

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Out of curiosity I just looked on Worldtracer for some totals and 1 in 100 is not far off the mark. A lot depends on what airline you fly, some are worse than others. You would also be surprised to see just how good at picking locks most custom officers are when the feel the they need to know what’s in side.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>One bag in every 100 goes missing. If it happens to you the >>>advice is to report it immediately at the lost baggage desk. >>>Any damage would also be inspected and noted there. >> Is it really true that one bag in every 100 goes missing? >If "goes missing" means "It isn’t on the baggage carousel" then that >sounds about right. If it means "lost and you have to get compensation" > then it is excessive. I’ve had bags missing but they were delivered >in a day or two. >I never have figured out how they do customs when international baggage >is late but it does appear to get delivered. > Baggage tracing clear it through customs with a copy of the form a > passenger fills out. Occasionally customs will look through bags, > especially new trainees. > —— > There are many people posting in the newsgroup who work in the travel trade. But > unless they have specified to the contrary they post here in a private capacity > and DO NOT represent the views of the organisations they work for, nor should > their views be taken to be representative of those organisations.

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:>>Airline passengers will now receive more compensation for delayed, lost or :>>damaged luggage, following new international rules. :>>Under the newly ratified Montreal Convention, payouts will be related to the :>>value of the goods, and passengers can receive compensation from airlines of :>>up to

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Brazilian EMB-120 crash

Question:

>Perhaps someone in/on the helicopters going to/from the site took along a >digital camera. Assume this individual had/has a "Taste for Porn". Further >assume this individual offered to trade the "Pic’s" for free access to the >porn site in question for a given period of time is 1 scenario for; "How >could this happen?"

I didn’t take a long look around on that site, but it’s becoming more and more common for people to make money off of porn by selling advertising space. >I hope all those involved in making the alleged Pic’s of "Human Remains" >from the Brazilian EMB-120 incident, plus those who attempt to profit from >same especially, lead a long unsuccessful life tormented/made a " Living >Hell", by the "Souls/Spirits/Ghosts of the crew & Pax that died in this >incident.

If not here, purgatory or hell will get em.

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One would think that the families would be able to sue.

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> "Alleged" indeed. How would someone get access to such photos of an air > crash with the bodies, to post them on a private website?

Unfortunately, it happens with almost every plane crash now. Especially those outside the US.

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> How could this happen? > http://www.stileproject.com/brazil.html

Yikes! Glad I don’t fly!

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>| Too much porn on that site… >One can never have enough pr0n.

Some can even spell it.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes someone needs to find out "How it Could Happen" that raw pic’s of > unrecovered human remains alleged to be from the referenced incident are > avialiable for viewing world wide on as a come on for a "Porn Site". > Who ever posted these Pic’s should be required to pick up/put the remains > shown in "Body Bags" useing their "Bare Hands". Then get them to tell us > when the odor wears off/goes away/is forgotton. To say nothing of when they > can eat again > It has been > 40 years since I was involved in the first recovery of humam > remains from an A/C incident & have always used gloves. Pic’s such as those > allegeing to be those of Human Remains from the Brazilian bring back > memories that are hard to forget. >"Alleged" indeed. How would someone get access to such photos of an air >crash with the bodies, to post them on a private website?

I worked on the recovery for TWA 880, Egypt 990, and Alaska Air. They were at sea and well… the company I worked for (the recovery was run by the gov’t but the equipment was operated by us) NEVER disclosed anything. No pictures, no video, etc. All of that data had to be encrypted before sending electronically from the boat. Pictures that get out are usually from either lax security or because the gov’t in the country where it happened makes them publicly available.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes someone needs to find out "How it Could Happen" that raw pic’s of > unrecovered human remains alleged to be from the referenced incident are > avialiable for viewing world wide on as a come on for a "Porn Site". > Who ever posted these Pic’s should be required to pick up/put the remains > shown in "Body Bags" useing their "Bare Hands". Then get them to tell us > when the odor wears off/goes away/is forgotton. To say nothing of when they > can eat again > It has been > 40 years since I was involved in the first recovery of humam > remains from an A/C incident & have always used gloves. Pic’s such as those > allegeing to be those of Human Remains from the Brazilian bring back > memories that are hard to forget. > "Alleged" indeed. How would someone get access to such photos of an air > crash with the bodies, to post them on a private website?

Perhaps someone in/on the helicopters going to/from the site took along a digital camera. Assume this individual had/has a "Taste for Porn". Further assume this individual offered to trade the "Pic’s" for free access to the porn site in question for a given period of time is 1 scenario for; "How could this happen?" I hope all those involved in making the alleged Pic’s of "Human Remains" from the Brazilian EMB-120 incident, plus those who attempt to profit from same especially, lead a long unsuccessful life tormented/made a " Living Hell", by the "Souls/Spirits/Ghosts of the crew & Pax that died in this incident. Ralph Nesbitt Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type Posting From ADA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Alleged" indeed. How would someone get access to such photos of an air > crash with the bodies, to post them on a private website? > Perhaps someone in/on the helicopters going to/from the site took along a > digital camera. Assume this individual had/has a "Taste for Porn". Further > assume this individual offered to trade the "Pic’s" for free access to the > porn site in question for a given period of time is 1 scenario for; "How > could this happen?" > I hope all those involved in making the alleged Pic’s of "Human Remains" > from the Brazilian EMB-120 incident, plus those who attempt to profit from > same especially, lead a long unsuccessful life tormented/made a " Living > Hell", by the "Souls/Spirits/Ghosts of the crew & Pax that died in this > incident.

I did glance at several of them, and obviously there are a number of badly mutilated and burned bodies, along with mechanical wreckage, so it may well be the Brazilian EMB-120 incident. That’s pretty disgusting to publish something like that, as things like that were not published in the past. Maybe the publisher(s) will be tormented enough by the spirits, that they will hang themselves to try to relieve their torment.

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> That’s pretty disgusting to publish something like that, as things like > that were not published in the past.

If you truly believe that Scott, then methinks you are in denial. Without even seeing them, I will daresay that pictures like that have been taken and shown since the invention of the photograph. In the good old days it would be pictures of lynchings being sold as photographs printed on postcards and just the other day it was the beheading of an American available from a few different websites. http://www.musarium.com/withoutsanctuary/main.html Go take a look for yourself at man’s inhumanity to man and while your at it click on the movie link and watch and listen. Now don’t get excited folks….. NO – It’s not a movie of a lynching. You might be disgusted, but for everyone like you who is disgusted you can be guaranteed that there is someone else who will salivate at the possibility of seeing the pictures. I don’t suppose you have taken a gander at http://rotten.com/

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>How could this happen?

That site is in *very* poor taste in more ways than one. What do you mean, how could this happen (I am assuming you are asking a genuine question and not just spamming a porn website)? Aircraft crash for any number of reasons. That is why the hold investigations. When all the facts have had time to be assembled and analysed you will find out. If you were just spamming porn, FOAD. Phil — Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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Porn and body parts don’t really go together.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How could this happen? > http://www.stileproject.com/brazil.html

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> Porn and body parts don’t really go together.

I thought porn *was* body parts. George Patterson I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

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> > How could this happen? > That site is in *very* poor taste in more ways than one. > What do you mean, how could this happen (I am assuming you are asking a > genuine question and not just spamming a porn website)? Aircraft crash > for any number of reasons. That is why the hold investigations. When all > the facts have had time to be assembled and analysed you will find out. > If you were just spamming porn, FOAD.

He needs to commit seppuku.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>How could this happen? >That site is in *very* poor taste in more ways than one. >What do you mean, how could this happen (I am assuming you are asking a >genuine question and not just spamming a porn website)? Aircraft crash >for any number of reasons. That is why the hold investigations. When all >the facts have had time to be assembled and analysed you will find out. >If you were just spamming porn, FOAD. > 1. Not a 120 > 2. Posting from Bell South > 3. Jiggling tits, etc. in side frames > I’d say yeah, he should FOAD . . . > Jerry

Yes someone needs to find out "How it Could Happen" that raw pic’s of unrecovered human remains alleged to be from the referenced incident are avialiable for viewing world wide on as a come on for a "Porn Site". Who ever posted these Pic’s should be required to pick up/put the remains shown in "Body Bags" useing their "Bare Hands". Then get them to tell us when the odor wears off/goes away/is forgotton. To say nothing of when they can eat again It has been > 40 years since I was involved in the first recovery of humam remains from an A/C incident & have always used gloves. Pic’s such as those allegeing to be those of Human Remains from the Brazilian bring back memories that are hard to forget. Ralph Nesbitt Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type Posting From ADA

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>How could this happen? >http://www.stileproject.com/brazil.html

Too much porn on that site…

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| Too much porn on that site… One can never have enough pr0n.

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> >One can never have enough pr0n.

You perhaps, not everybody…

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> Yes someone needs to find out "How it Could Happen" that raw pic’s of > unrecovered human remains alleged to be from the referenced incident are > avialiable for viewing world wide on as a come on for a "Porn Site". > Who ever posted these Pic’s should be required to pick up/put the remains > shown in "Body Bags" useing their "Bare Hands". Then get them to tell us > when the odor wears off/goes away/is forgotton. To say nothing of when they > can eat again > It has been > 40 years since I was involved in the first recovery of humam > remains from an A/C incident & have always used gloves. Pic’s such as those > allegeing to be those of Human Remains from the Brazilian bring back > memories that are hard to forget.

"Alleged" indeed. How would someone get access to such photos of an air crash with the bodies, to post them on a private website?

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How could this happen? http://www.stileproject.com/brazil.html

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The World Wide Web on the World Wide Sea

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> Great work! > Here’s one nit, the Java lounge thumbnail on day 2 is linked to the WWW > antenna. > Jim

Thank you, Jim. The broken link has been corrected. Bill http://americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/daytwo.htm

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Just returned from ten days on HAL’s Ryndam to Baja California and the Mexican Riviera. The Ryndam has internet access via satellite. With my laptop and digital camera I recorded the voyage and uploaded it to my web site daily while the ship was underway. The cost was $100 for 250 minutes. Here is the web site for all the ports and shipboard activities. Bill http://www.americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/log.htm

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Great work! Here’s one nit, the Java lounge thumbnail on day 2 is linked to the WWW antenna. Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just returned from ten days on HAL’s Ryndam to Baja California and the > Mexican Riviera. > The Ryndam has internet access via satellite. With my laptop and > digital camera I recorded the voyage and uploaded it to my web site > daily while the ship was underway. The cost was $100 for 250 minutes. > Here is the web site for all the ports and shipboard activities. > Bill > http://www.americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/log.htm

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>Here is the web site for all the ports and shipboard activities. >Bill >http://www.americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/log.htm

"The ship was spotless, the crew exceptionally friendly… a server at the Lido Restaurant would greet us with song at breakfast.. "Oh What a Beautiful Morning!" Sometimes the passengers would join in." Scratch that old bucket.

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Great work! Here’s one nit, the Java lounge thumbnail on day 2 is linked to the WWW antenna. Jim

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>Here is the web site for all the ports and shipboard activities. >Bill >http://www.americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/log.htm

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> Great work! > Here’s one nit, the Java lounge thumbnail on day 2 is linked to the WWW > antenna. > Jim

Thank you, Jim. The broken link has been corrected. Bill http://americahurrah.com/Cruises/Ryndam/daytwo.htm

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EASYJET – Cabin Luggage – How much?

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I will be flying Europe’s Easyjet for the first time in June and would like to get advice on the size of cabin luggage allowed. Since it is almost impossible to contact Easyjet from the USA (the phone is always busy), I cannot get an answer from them. I would like to know from the following list of approved items, the size allowed and fellow passangers experiences in this area. I do not want to check luggage because it might delay me catching a train from the airport area. Easyjet allows: Cabin bag of 45cm x 35cm x 20cm – wt = 5 kilos – which is not very heavy – the bag alone would weigh almost 5 kilos. Do they weigh all these bags and charge the overweight fee – which is very high Handbag – how big can this be? Clutchbag – how big can this be? Duty Free goods – what does this mean – items in sacks, etc. Small items of camera equipment – how many items can be brought – would several 35mm SLR cameras in a camera bag with a lens be ok (the camera bag would be about 12" x 10" x 8")? Is there any flexibility for carryon luggage? Thanks for any advice on this. I am sure after flying once I will know how this works. Rick

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Why not just read the following: http://www.easyjet.com/EN/book/regulations.html under baggage. You’ll probably find that some checkin operators are more flexible than others, but there’s nothing worse than getting on a plane when every other passenger has the same idea as you appear to have that they can take all manner of bulky and weighty items on board, and fill up all the overhead locker space around them to the discomfort of the fellow passengers, and the dismay of the cabin crew who are required to see that such clutter doesn’t obstruct potential emergency situations. Unless things have markedly changed since my last international jaunt you’ll find that airlines outside the USA are much more stringent with the weight and bulk of items allowed in the cabin of the aircraft. Regards David Bennetts .

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David: Thanks for the reply but I read the EJ link on luggage(not very clear-thats why I asked questions). I was trying to get experiences of EJ travellers.

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How might it delay catching a train? Won’t you have some checked luggage? If it is going to be that tight of a connection to a train, you might consider taking the next train.

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>You’ll probably find that some checkin operators are more flexible than >others,

I doubt it. Easyjet are very strict in the enforced of their carry on limits. You will be very lucky to get more than the allow in size or weight. — Lansbury www.uk-air.net FAQs for the alt.travel.uk.air newsgroup

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I will be flying Europe’s Easyjet for the first time in June and would like to > get advice on the size of cabin luggage allowed. Since it is almost impossible > to contact Easyjet from the USA (the phone is always busy), I cannot get an > answer from them. I would like to know from the following list of approved > items, the size allowed and fellow passangers experiences in this area. I do > not want to check luggage because it might delay me catching a train from the > airport area. > Easyjet allows: > Cabin bag of 45cm x 35cm x 20cm – wt = 5 kilos – which is not very heavy – the > bag alone would weigh almost 5 kilos. Do they weigh all these bags and charge > the overweight fee – which is very high > Handbag – how big can this be? > Clutchbag – how big can this be? > Duty Free goods – what does this mean – items in sacks, etc. > Small items of camera equipment – how many items can be brought – would several > 35mm SLR cameras in a camera bag with a lens be ok (the camera bag would be > about 12" x 10" x 8")? > Is there any flexibility for carryon luggage? > Thanks for any advice on this. I am sure after flying once I will know how > this works. > Rick

As an Easyjet customer, who only ever takes Hand Luggage, my advice is to always wear/carry your heaviest clothes. I have a wheelie flightbag made of fabric which I underpack, so it looks lighter. I carry a daypack/rucsac with my cameras, makeup etc, slung over one shoulder. Touchwood, I’ve never had anything queried. The secret is to make more appear to be less . I don’t buy duty free so I have one less bag than most at the airport door- where you can also be stopped for to much baggage. The return check in from Madrid/Barcelona is much more casual than Stanstead, I’m sure I bring back double what I take out!! BTW There are always people that appear to carry on more than me. Jan

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>I will be flying Europe’s Easyjet for the first time in June and would like to >get advice on the size of cabin luggage allowed. Since it is almost impossible >to contact Easyjet from the USA (the phone is always busy), I cannot get an >answer from them. I would like to know from the following list of approved >items, the size allowed and fellow passangers experiences in this area. I do >not want to check luggage because it might delay me catching a train from the >airport area. >Easyjet allows: >Cabin bag of 45cm x 35cm x 20cm – wt = 5 kilos – which is not very heavy – the >bag alone would weigh almost 5 kilos. Do they weigh all these bags and charge >the overweight fee – which is very high

In 4 out of 5 flights I have taken with EZY they have weighed my cabin bag. Assume they will do so with yours, and that they will impose the limit, probably allowing up to 6 kg. You should think about getting another bag if it is so heavy. >Handbag – how big can this be? >Clutchbag – how big can this be? >Duty Free goods – what does this mean – items in sacks, etc. >Small items of camera equipment – how many items can be brought – would several >35mm SLR cameras in a camera bag with a lens be ok (the camera bag would be >about 12" x 10" x 8")? >Is there any flexibility for carryon luggage?

Very little. EZY will have the last say, be prepared to check anything over the limit. >Thanks for any advice on this. I am sure after flying once I will know how >this works. >Rick

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We just flew EasyJet CDG to LHR last week. The carryon backpack was weighed at 7 KG and I thought they would ask for money but they let it go. Also had some other lighter plastic bags that weren’t bothered with at CDG. As said before, make it look light and if it turns out a bit over odds are they won’t charge. But they could…. Rick2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I will be flying Europe’s Easyjet for the first time in June and would like to >get advice on the size of cabin luggage allowed. Since it is almost impossible >to contact Easyjet from the USA (the phone is always busy), I cannot get an >answer from them. I would like to know from the following list of approved >items, the size allowed and fellow passangers experiences in this area. I do >not want to check luggage because it might delay me catching a train from the >airport area. >Easyjet allows: >Cabin bag of 45cm x 35cm x 20cm – wt = 5 kilos – which is not very heavy – the >bag alone would weigh almost 5 kilos. Do they weigh all these bags and charge >the overweight fee – which is very high > In 4 out of 5 flights I have taken with EZY they have weighed my cabin > bag. Assume they will do so with yours, and that they will impose the > limit, probably allowing up to 6 kg. You should think about getting > another bag if it is so heavy. >Handbag – how big can this be? >Clutchbag – how big can this be? >Duty Free goods – what does this mean – items in sacks, etc. >Small items of camera equipment – how many items can be brought – would several >35mm SLR cameras in a camera bag with a lens be ok (the camera bag would be >about 12" x 10" x 8")? >Is there any flexibility for carryon luggage? > Very little. EZY will have the last say, be prepared to check anything > over the limit. >Thanks for any advice on this. I am sure after flying once I will know how >this works. >Rick > –==++AJC++==–

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> We just flew EasyJet CDG to LHR last week. The carryon backpack was > weighed at 7 KG and I thought they would ask for money but they let it > go. Also had some other lighter plastic bags that weren’t bothered > with at CDG. As said before, make it look light and if it turns out a > bit over odds are they won’t charge. But they could….

Wrong. They won’t ever charge for overweight cabin baggage, simply tell you to check it in. End.

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>>We just flew EasyJet CDG to LHR last week. The carryon backpack was >weighed at 7 KG and I thought they would ask for money but they let it >go. Also had some other lighter plastic bags that weren’t bothered >with at CDG. As said before, make it look light and if it turns out a >bit over odds are they won’t charge. But they could…. > Wrong. They won’t ever charge for overweight cabin baggage, simply tell you > to check it in. End.

If you have to check it, then it is no longer overweight cabin baggage.

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No overweight fee. If it’s over 5kg, it gets checked. End. > Handbag – how big can this be?

That’s a purse to you. > Clutchbag – how big can this be?

This is probably instead of a handbag. > Duty Free goods – what does this mean – items in sacks, etc.

One plastic bag of stuff such as alcohol, perfume, etc. > Small items of camera equipment – how many items can be brought – would several > 35mm SLR cameras in a camera bag with a lens be ok (the camera bag would be > about 12" x 10" x 8")?

How many is several? 2 would probably be fine, any more and you’re pushing it. The bag size sounds OK. > Is there any flexibility for carryon luggage?

Very little, and with good reason. Oversize carryons delay both boarding and deplaning, and this can impact EasyJet’s very tight turnaround times. So, they strictly limit carryons, which keeps them on schedule, which keeps fares low. Makes sense to me.

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> Thanks for the reply but I read the EJ link on luggage(not very > clear-thats why I asked questions). I was trying to get experiences of EJ > travellers.

If it’s largish, then they’re almost certain to ask you to weigh it. If it’s not excessively large, then in my experience it depends on how you carry it. If it looks light, then they usually won’t bother. With my backpack, for instance, if I put it on one shoulder and make sure I don’t list off to one side, then they don’t say anything. If I wear it on both shoulders or look like it’s weighing me down (unavoidable at a 6am flight!), then they raise the issue. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

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Electric fuel pumps suck.

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Fuel cooling is nothing new. Did you all know that the GE engines on many airlines use fuel to cool the engine control computers? For example, the GE-90 Engine control has fuel running through the computer chassis on it’s way to the engine. This serves the dual purposes of cooling the computer and pre-warming the fuel. Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "SBlackfoot" wrote > What happens when the fuel level drops below the pump? That doesn’t sound > right… > Most of the late model in tank fuel pumps sit inside of > a plastic module that basically keeps the fuel pump > covered with fuel right to the last drop. So even > if you run the fuel level very low, the return fuel line > from the injectors is dumping fuel back into that module > and keeping the level of fuel around the fuel pump up > over the fuel pump. > Ian

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> Fuel cooling is nothing new. Did you all know that the GE engines on > many > airlines use fuel to cool the engine control computers? For example, > the GE-90 Engine control has fuel running through the computer chassis > on it’s way to the engine. This serves the dual purposes of cooling the > computer and pre-warming the fuel.

There are many things in the automotive world that are "nothing new". All you have to do to prove that, is go browse through an aircraft museum and have a look at the WWII aircraft engines and the kind of technology that was in use in the 30’s and 40’s. Ian

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Doc, You just said you weren’t looking for a a wiper motor and that you’rs works OK. Is someone out there impersinating you? Here is the post that I had repsonded to: Elliott Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks, alt.trucks.chevy Ok guys, I’m stuck. The wiper circuit board on my 88′ C1500 gave up the ghost. Went to the dealership and the part they have listed is NOT correct. There is no part # on my existing circuit board, just GM production numbers (22062675 and 22062675). The part they tried to give me is a trapezoidal-shaped board; mine is rectangular (sorry, no digital camera) and slides into a plastic housing which in turn plugs in to the motor itself. It has a 5- prong pin connector on the harness side, and (5 or 6, can’t remember) slots on the motor side which accept spades on the motor. I have called several dealerships and they all have the same # listed with no alternates. Anyone run into this and have a P/N for me?? <g> Doc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Doc, > I do remember that (guess the fingers were a little quick to respond). > You were looking for a Rear, and a wiper-motor. I offered to take a > look under the cover of the 87 wiper-motor-circuit-cover for you -but > you never responded. > Seems we never heard the outcome of those tasks. How is it comming? > Elliott > Never was looking for a wiper motor (mine works ok), just a rear-end. I’m > just going to swap out the gears in the rear-end (currently 2.73, will go to > either 4.10 or 4.56) and add a Richmond locking carrier. > Doc > > > If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing > > > parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the > > > spare motor, and the condition of everything else. > > > There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. > > > Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building > anything. > > > Elliott > > Well, if you’d been around here for longer than a few weeks you’d know > that > > I’m restoring/building a street/strip El Camino. > > Doc

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> What I’ve been told is that the modern pumps for fuel injection > generate too much heat for air cooling, so they’re in the tank for the > fuel to cool them.. (kind of scary, when you think of cooling > something with gas)

What happens when the fuel level drops below the pump? That doesn’t sound right…

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"SBlackfoot" wrote > What happens when the fuel level drops below the pump? That doesn’t sound > right…

Most of the late model in tank fuel pumps sit inside of a plastic module that basically keeps the fuel pump covered with fuel right to the last drop. So even if you run the fuel level very low, the return fuel line from the injectors is dumping fuel back into that module and keeping the level of fuel around the fuel pump up over the fuel pump. Ian

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> Doc, > You just said you weren’t looking for a a wiper motor and that you’rs > works OK. > Is someone out there impersinating you? Here is the post that I had > repsonded to:

Dude, that is ANCIENT history. Look at the date of the post, July 16th, 2003! Doc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Elliott > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks, alt.trucks.chevy > Ok guys, I’m stuck. > The wiper circuit board on my 88′ C1500 gave up the ghost. Went to the > dealership and the part they have listed is NOT correct. There is no > part # > on my existing circuit board, just GM production numbers (22062675 and > 22062675). The part they tried to give me is a trapezoidal-shaped > board; > mine is rectangular (sorry, no digital camera) and slides into a plastic > housing which in turn plugs in to the motor itself. It has a 5- prong > pin > connector on the harness side, and (5 or 6, can’t remember) slots on the > motor side which accept spades on the motor. > I have called several dealerships and they all have the same # listed > with > no alternates. > Anyone run into this and have a P/N for me?? <g> > Doc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Doc, > > I do remember that (guess the fingers were a little quick to respond). > > You were looking for a Rear, and a wiper-motor. I offered to take a > > look under the cover of the 87 wiper-motor-circuit-cover for you -but > > you never responded. > > Seems we never heard the outcome of those tasks. How is it comming? > > Elliott > Never was looking for a wiper motor (mine works ok), just a rear-end. I’m > just going to swap out the gears in the rear-end (currently 2.73, will go to > either 4.10 or 4.56) and add a Richmond locking carrier. > Doc > > > > If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing > > > > parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the > > > > spare motor, and the condition of everything else. > > > > There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. > > > > Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building > anything. > > > > Elliott > > > Well, if you’d been around here for longer than a few weeks you’d know > that > > > I’m restoring/building a street/strip El Camino. > > > Doc

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Thanks Timo, but no it’s a keyed connector. My best hopes for it are that the ground sucks or that the power going to the relay is not so good. Seems the computer-sourced voltages are erratic too (thus I’m suspicious of the computer) – it’s getting more and more tempting to just swap the manifold and go with the carborated intake that I have – and the mechanical pump with that. Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Any chanche you have + and – reversed so the pump is running backwards, > pumping the fuel into the tank? Just a thought. > Timo > Well I’m on my 2nd replacement pump and I can still hear it but nothing > is coming > through the brand-new line. Been studying the schematics – but they’re > a long way from complete in the Haynes book. One thing it did > illuminate (shoulda > figured it anyway) is that the 2 wire connector has 1 wire for the > pump’s > power and 1 for the fuel gage. Both referenced to GND. With all the > rust > on the collar that holds the pump into the tank, and the kludged wire > that > was there it’s a wonder it’s getting enough juice to even make noise. > It probably would be worth draining & dropping the tank again and > soldering > the gnd wire on this time. Meanwhile, I’m wondering if the Computer is > fried. > The PNK wire going to the coil is sometimes live and sometimes dead. > When > live it will start via staring fluid or carb cleaner. When not, I can > force > it hot and do the same. Still I think it comes from the distributor and > the > module is fed by the PCM. Thus I wonder if the PCM is alive or dead – > and am > wondering how I can isolate and test various parts of these systems. > One place to start seems the "fuel pump prime" and the gnd on the tank. > PS: Thank God for Jack stands. When I was getting it down from the > highest jack stand setting, the wood-block on top of the jack (needed > for > the height) flipped out and the truck was caught by the Jack Stand (then > on > it’s lowest setting). I wasn’t under it – but it woulda sucked having > the > jack through the floor and the front wheel’s dust cover and rotor on the > ground. > Elliott >>I think that they’re more for performance applications where you would use a >>fuel cell or a custom tank. >>nospam >>>How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the >>>fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. >>>– >>>Steve >>>>I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted >>>>back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall >>>>mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody >>>>seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? >>>>(Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.) >>>—–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >>>http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>>—–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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>I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted >back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall >mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody >seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? >(Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.)

What I’ve been told is that the modern pumps for fuel injection generate too much heat for air cooling, so they’re in the tank for the fuel to cool them.. (kind of scary, when you think of cooling something with gas) May or may not be true, I know i’ve replaced several fuel pumps on older carb engines with firewall mount electric pumps and used an adapter plate over the old fuel pump mount on the block.. those days might be long gone, though.. Mac

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> Doc, > I do remember that (guess the fingers were a little quick to respond). > You were looking for a Rear, and a wiper-motor. I offered to take a > look under the cover of the 87 wiper-motor-circuit-cover for you -but > you never responded. > Seems we never heard the outcome of those tasks. How is it comming? > Elliott

Never was looking for a wiper motor (mine works ok), just a rear-end. I’m just going to swap out the gears in the rear-end (currently 2.73, will go to either 4.10 or 4.56) and add a Richmond locking carrier. Doc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing > > parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the > > spare motor, and the condition of everything else. > > There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. > > Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building anything. > > Elliott > Well, if you’d been around here for longer than a few weeks you’d know that > I’m restoring/building a street/strip El Camino. > Doc

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Any chanche you have + and – reversed so the pump is running backwards, pumping the fuel into the tank? Just a thought. Timo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Well I’m on my 2nd replacement pump and I can still hear it but nothing > is coming > through the brand-new line. Been studying the schematics – but they’re > a long way from complete in the Haynes book. One thing it did > illuminate (shoulda > figured it anyway) is that the 2 wire connector has 1 wire for the > pump’s > power and 1 for the fuel gage. Both referenced to GND. With all the > rust > on the collar that holds the pump into the tank, and the kludged wire > that > was there it’s a wonder it’s getting enough juice to even make noise. > It probably would be worth draining & dropping the tank again and > soldering > the gnd wire on this time. Meanwhile, I’m wondering if the Computer is > fried. > The PNK wire going to the coil is sometimes live and sometimes dead. > When > live it will start via staring fluid or carb cleaner. When not, I can > force > it hot and do the same. Still I think it comes from the distributor and > the > module is fed by the PCM. Thus I wonder if the PCM is alive or dead – > and am > wondering how I can isolate and test various parts of these systems. > One place to start seems the "fuel pump prime" and the gnd on the tank. > PS: Thank God for Jack stands. When I was getting it down from the > highest jack stand setting, the wood-block on top of the jack (needed > for > the height) flipped out and the truck was caught by the Jack Stand (then > on > it’s lowest setting). I wasn’t under it – but it woulda sucked having > the > jack through the floor and the front wheel’s dust cover and rotor on the > ground. > Elliott >I think that they’re more for performance applications where you would use a >fuel cell or a custom tank. >nospam >>How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the >>fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. >>– >>Steve >>>I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted >>>back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall >>>mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody >>>seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? >>>(Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.) >>—–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >>http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>—–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Much better pete. I know you have plenty to contribute, and I want to read your posts – but having to memorize the last sentence of the previous post was becoming annoying. Thank you. ~KJ~

a fuel pump will draw through the factory in-tank one if you choose to leave it in the tank -Pete Re: Electric fuel pumps suck. How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. — Steve

I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? (Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? > Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… > Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough > pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). > That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut > off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak > (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That > drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. > Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. > Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and > autozooo. > Have wanted to go mechanical pump before – but learned that > they don’t build enough pressure to run TBI. If anyone knows > a trick to enhance a mechanical pump I do have one on an older > carborated motor (the same 2.8L V6 block). > Yes this is on my 87 S-10 (yea with the home-machined heads). > Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist. > Wouldn’t be so annoying if when he cludged something it > was as good as the production version – but instead I wonder > how this thing ran at all. > PS: The DS in the Sonoma is doin fine! Taking it for a hundred > or so miles this evening. > Elliott

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How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. — Steve

> I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted > back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall > mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody > seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? > (Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.)

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I think that they’re more for performance applications where you would use a fuel cell or a custom tank. nospam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the > fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. > — > Steve > I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted > back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall > mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody > seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? > (Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.) > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Well I’m on my 2nd replacement pump and I can still hear it but nothing is coming through the brand-new line. Been studying the schematics – but they’re a long way from complete in the Haynes book. One thing it did illuminate (shoulda figured it anyway) is that the 2 wire connector has 1 wire for the pump’s power and 1 for the fuel gage. Both referenced to GND. With all the rust on the collar that holds the pump into the tank, and the kludged wire that was there it’s a wonder it’s getting enough juice to even make noise. It probably would be worth draining & dropping the tank again and soldering the gnd wire on this time. Meanwhile, I’m wondering if the Computer is fried. The PNK wire going to the coil is sometimes live and sometimes dead. When live it will start via staring fluid or carb cleaner. When not, I can force it hot and do the same. Still I think it comes from the distributor and the module is fed by the PCM. Thus I wonder if the PCM is alive or dead – and am wondering how I can isolate and test various parts of these systems. One place to start seems the "fuel pump prime" and the gnd on the tank. PS: Thank God for Jack stands. When I was getting it down from the highest jack stand setting, the wood-block on top of the jack (needed for the height) flipped out and the truck was caught by the Jack Stand (then on it’s lowest setting). I wasn’t under it – but it woulda sucked having the jack through the floor and the front wheel’s dust cover and rotor on the ground. Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I think that they’re more for performance applications where you would use a > fuel cell or a custom tank. > nospam > How do you get the fuel out of the tank? The factory pump will block the > fuel flow going through it if you just try to draw through it. > — > Steve > > I see after market electric pumps at my auto store that can be mounted > > back by the tank, but not inside, and also one that can be firewall > > mounted to pull all the way from the tank. Is there a reason nobody > > seems to go this route rather than the expensive in-tank OEM pumps? > > (Yes, the pumps in question are made for fuel injection.) > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Any chance it just ran out of gas? Pump on all night, pinhole leak… I would assume the fuel pump relay is stuck closed… Al

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Doc, I do remember that (guess the fingers were a little quick to respond). You were looking for a Rear, and a wiper-motor. I offered to take a look under the cover of the 87 wiper-motor-circuit-cover for you -but you never responded. Seems we never heard the outcome of those tasks. How is it comming? Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing > parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the > spare motor, and the condition of everything else. > There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. > Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building anything. > Elliott > Well, if you’d been around here for longer than a few weeks you’d know that > I’m restoring/building a street/strip El Camino. > Doc

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It ran pretty low on Gas that night – but has since received a few gallans. I’m siphoning them out again now so I can pull the tank again. The realay seemed possible but I can hear the pump pumping and there’s still no gas getting through. Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? > Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… > Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough > pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). > That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut > off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak > (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That > drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. > Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. > Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and > autozooo. > Have wanted to go mechanical pump before – but learned that > they don’t build enough pressure to run TBI. If anyone knows > a trick to enhance a mechanical pump I do have one on an older > carborated motor (the same 2.8L V6 block). > Yes this is on my 87 S-10 (yea with the home-machined heads). > Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist. > Wouldn’t be so annoying if when he cludged something it > was as good as the production version – but instead I wonder > how this thing ran at all. > PS: The DS in the Sonoma is doin fine! Taking it for a hundred > or so miles this evening. > Elliott > Any chance it just ran out of gas? Pump on all night, pinhole leak… I > would assume the fuel pump relay is stuck closed… > Al

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> If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing > parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the > spare motor, and the condition of everything else. > There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. > Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building anything. > Elliott

Well, if you’d been around here for longer than a few weeks you’d know that I’m restoring/building a street/strip El Camino. Doc

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"Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist." Now wouldn’t you like to meet the seller??? hhaaa ha ha ha ha ha nospam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? > Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… > Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough > pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). > That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut > off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak > (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That > drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. > Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. > Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and > autozooo. > Have wanted to go mechanical pump before – but learned that > they don’t build enough pressure to run TBI. If anyone knows > a trick to enhance a mechanical pump I do have one on an older > carborated motor (the same 2.8L V6 block). > Yes this is on my 87 S-10 (yea with the home-machined heads). > Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist. > Wouldn’t be so annoying if when he cludged something it > was as good as the production version – but instead I wonder > how this thing ran at all. > PS: The DS in the Sonoma is doin fine! Taking it for a hundred > or so miles this evening. > Elliott > Bwahahahahahaha! > Doc

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If you mean the S-10 I did meet him. He came through with the missing parts. It’s just that he lied his ass off about the condition of the spare motor, and the condition of everything else. There’s no restriction – I replaced the main line too. Laugh all you want Doc, I don’t see you writing about building anything. Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist." > Now wouldn’t you like to meet the seller??? > hhaaa ha ha ha ha ha > nospam > > Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? > > Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… > > Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough > > pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). > > That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut > > off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak > > (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That > > drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. > > Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. > > Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and > > autozooo. > > Have wanted to go mechanical pump before – but learned that > > they don’t build enough pressure to run TBI. If anyone knows > > a trick to enhance a mechanical pump I do have one on an older > > carborated motor (the same 2.8L V6 block). > > Yes this is on my 87 S-10 (yea with the home-machined heads). > > Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist. > > Wouldn’t be so annoying if when he cludged something it > > was as good as the production version – but instead I wonder > > how this thing ran at all. > > PS: The DS in the Sonoma is doin fine! Taking it for a hundred > > or so miles this evening. > > Elliott > Bwahahahahahaha! > Doc

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> Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? > Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… > Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough > pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). > That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut > off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak > (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That > drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. > Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. > Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and > autozooo.

Did you run the car last night after you changed the pump? I sounds like you may have a restriction past the filter. Did you pull the filter to make sure it really isn’t pumping.

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Bwahahahahahaha! Doc

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Any chance Adv-auto would have a drill-in drain for a gas-tank? Going to change the fuel pump again tomarrow… Changed it yesterday since it didn’t have enough pressure to pump above the fuel filter (pumped that far ok). That was great until I found out this a.m. that it never shut off last night (wiring problem), and it had a pin-hole-leak (stink in the drive-way) under the driver’s door. That drained the battery and killed the new fuel pump. Now there’s voltage, pump-noise, but no gas. Going out to spend a couple hundred on dinnner, wine, and autozooo. Have wanted to go mechanical pump before – but learned that they don’t build enough pressure to run TBI. If anyone knows a trick to enhance a mechanical pump I do have one on an older carborated motor (the same 2.8L V6 block). Yes this is on my 87 S-10 (yea with the home-machined heads). Seems the person I bought it from was a half-assed cludge-artist. Wouldn’t be so annoying if when he cludged something it was as good as the production version – but instead I wonder how this thing ran at all. PS: The DS in the Sonoma is doin fine! Taking it for a hundred or so miles this evening. Elliott

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digital camera zoom ??

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>Essentially, optical zoom uses optics to produce the zoom, where digital zoom >proceses the picture using the internal computer in the camera. Since the >computer can only process what it has, enlarging a picture digitally will >reduce the sharpness as compared to the same enlargement using optics.

A digital zoom is no different than blowing up the image in your computer and cropping it.

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I love my Canon PowerShot A70! 3 megapixels and very user-friendly. Great photos, too! Of course, if you’re looking for an SLR digital, that’s different. Good luck deciding! You might want to visit CNET or Epinions or some camera forums before making your choice. Lindsay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >now to determine which camera!

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While tiny is nice, I also like to be able to have a good grip on the camera. I feel my Canon PowerShot A70 affords that. I feel the same about my cellphone. Small, yes, but not so miniscule that my fingers are too large for the keypad or I can’t get a decent grip on it. Lindsay

<<Optical zoom is important… but so is tiny size. Tiny is better. You want something that fits in a pocket or easiliy in your purse. To me, the Canon Elph is about as big as I would consider. New stuff should be even smaller. –Tom>>

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I have found www.dpreview.com to be very useful DP stands for Digital Photography in case anyone was wondering They have reviews as well as user comments and pricing! Wayne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know it’s OT but figure this is the place to go! > what’s the difference between optical zoom, digital zoom etc on digitals? > I know about megapixels and lcd screens! > looking for a new digital camera. currently have a kodak easy share dx3500 > but looking for something a bit sleeker and better zoom capabilities (for > alaska) > thanks > — > Sheree

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I know it’s OT but figure this is the place to go! what’s the difference between optical zoom, digital zoom etc on digitals? I know about megapixels and lcd screens! looking for a new digital camera. currently have a kodak easy share dx3500 but looking for something a bit sleeker and better zoom capabilities (for alaska) thanks — Sheree

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Essentially, optical zoom uses optics to produce the zoom, where digital zoom proceses the picture using the internal computer in the camera. Since the computer can only process what it has, enlarging a picture digitally will reduce the sharpness as compared to the same enlargement using optics.

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Optical uses the lens to zoom, so you get the full resolution picture once you take it. If it’s a 3 mp camera, then your picture will be 3mp on card. Digital zoom is the same as cropping the picture in photoshop, where you get a larger pictures, but at lower resolution. Think of taking a 3 mp picture and cropping it in photoshop, you get a closer view, but less resolution. Optical is far better, if that’s important to you, then get one with really good optical zoom. There are a couple out there that have 10 times optical zoom, I have one and love it.

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Optical zoom is important… but so is tiny size. Tiny is better. You want something that fits in a pocket or easiliy in your purse. To me, the Canon Elph is about as big as I would consider. New stuff should be even smaller. –Tom

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<<To me, the Canon Elph is about as big as I would consider. New stuff should be even smaller. >> You really ought to start working out, Tom.

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thanks Mike, nice and clear explanation that I can understand! now to determine which camera! — Sheree

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Optical uses the lens to zoom, so you get the full resolution picture once > you take it. If it’s a 3 mp camera, then your picture will be 3mp on card. > Digital zoom is the same as cropping the picture in photoshop, where you get > a larger pictures, but at lower resolution. Think of taking a 3 mp picture > and cropping it in photoshop, you get a closer view, but less resolution. > Optical is far better, if that’s important to you, then get one with really > good optical zoom. There are a couple out there that have 10 times optical > zoom, I have one and love it. > I know it’s OT but figure this is the place to go! > what’s the difference between optical zoom, digital zoom etc on digitals? > I know about megapixels and lcd screens! > looking for a new digital camera. currently have a kodak easy share > dx3500 > but looking for something a bit sleeker and better zoom capabilities (for > alaska) > thanks > — > Sheree

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tiny is good, but I want the good zoom too! i usually carry a backpack or daypack so it will fit! some of them come with cases that can go on your belt as well. we also have a pair of binoculars with a digital camera. takes great close up pictures for things far away! — Sheree – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Optical zoom is important… but so is tiny size. Tiny is better. You want > something that fits in a pocket or easiliy in your purse. > To me, the Canon Elph is about as big as I would consider. New stuff should > be even smaller. > –Tom > I know it’s OT but figure this is the place to go! > what’s the difference between optical zoom, digital zoom etc on digitals? > I know about megapixels and lcd screens! > looking for a new digital camera. currently have a kodak easy share > dx3500 > but looking for something a bit sleeker and better zoom capabilities (for > alaska) > thanks > — > Sheree

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If you go with too high of a optical zoom (ex. 10x) it may be very difficult to hold camera still enough (w/o a tripod) at full zoom to avoid a blurred picture. Forget the digital zoom power hype because that just makes it worse. I would look at a 6x optical zoom – example Fuji’s S3000 – lot’s of bang for the $$ (under $300)with 3.2 megapixels.

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I disagree. If zoom is important, I would go for the 10 x (Like I said, I love my Olympus 10X) and if you are hand holding it then don’t go to full zoom, but if you have one of those tiny little tripods, or can hold it against a lamppost or something to steady it, you will get pictures you couldn’t with a x or a 6 x zoom.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you go with too high of a optical zoom (ex. 10x) it may be very difficult > to hold camera still enough (w/o a tripod) at full zoom to avoid a blurred > picture. Forget the digital zoom power hype because that just makes it > worse. I would look at a 6x optical zoom – example Fuji’s S3000 – lot’s of > bang for the $$ (under $300)with 3.2 megapixels. > I know it’s OT but figure this is the place to go! > what’s the difference between optical zoom, digital zoom etc on digitals? > I know about megapixels and lcd screens! > looking for a new digital camera. currently have a kodak easy share > dx3500 > but looking for something a bit sleeker and better zoom capabilities (for > alaska) > thanks > — > Sheree

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> If you go with too high of a optical zoom (ex. 10x) it may be very difficult > to hold camera still enough (w/o a tripod) at full zoom to avoid a blurred > picture. Forget the digital zoom power hype because that just makes it > worse. I would look at a 6x optical zoom – example Fuji’s S3000 – lot’s of > bang for the $$ (under $300)with 3.2 megapixels.

Art, Can’t someone with a 10x just zoom to 6x and take a picture with the same results? Can someone with a 6x zoom to 10x? And doesn’t shutter speed come in to all of this? Jeff

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you go with too high of a optical zoom (ex. 10x) it may be very > difficult > to hold camera still enough (w/o a tripod) at full zoom to avoid a blurred > picture. Forget the digital zoom power hype because that just makes it > worse. I would look at a 6x optical zoom – example Fuji’s S3000 – lot’s > of > bang for the $$ (under $300)with 3.2 megapixels. > Art, > Can’t someone with a 10x just zoom to 6x and take a picture with the same > results? Can someone with a 6x zoom to 10x? And doesn’t shutter speed come > in to all of this? > Jeff > I think the issue here is that an optical zoom camera has a "snout’ which reduces the

cameras "pocketability". Zoom lens will take a better picture, but digital zoom makes for a slimmer camera. Digital zoom is hardly worth using; use it as a aim-and-shoot. Photography has many "trade-offs", this is yet another. ……Dick M.

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<<To me, the Canon Elph is about as big as I would consider. New stuff should be even smaller. >> You really ought to start working out, Tom.

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thanks Mike, nice and clear explanation that I can understand! now to determine which camera! — Sheree

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Art, Can’t someone with a 10x just zoom to 6x and take a picture with the same results? Can someone with a 6x zoom to 10x? And doesn’t shutter speed come in to all of this? Jeff

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A digital zoom is no different than blowing up the image in your computer and cropping it.

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I have found www.dpreview.com to be very useful DP stands for Digital Photography in case anyone was wondering They have reviews as well as user comments and pricing! Wayne

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Sydney store for US (Canada) – Aussie electrical plug?

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The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere in Sydney… Richard

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> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find an > adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here only have > the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, but I’d rather > get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere in Sydney… > Richard

Any Dick Smith’s would have it. Also, the good luggage stores here (Canada) have a multi-plug kit (Sanyo, I believe) which works for just about all voltages and sockets found around the world – it comes in a kit around the size of a pocket calculator and maybe 8 cm. thick – I find it a great boon for anywhere I go.

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Just out of interest, for what kind of device(s) do you need the ground? For ‘outdoor’ use, a grounded device can be more dangerous than one which does not need a ground. Having said that: I have seen many adapters US/Canada -> Australia, but never with a ground. If you really need one, then I advise to bring a US ‘counter-plug’ (i.e. socket) with a piece of 3-wire cable. Then in Oz, you buy an Aussie plug and wire it up to the cable. You can buy plugs in most (big(ger)) supermarkets.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find an > adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here only have > the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, but I’d rather > get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere in Sydney… > Richard > Any Dick Smith’s would have it. Also, the good luggage stores here (Canada) > have a multi-plug kit (Sanyo, I believe) which works for just about all > voltages and sockets found around the world – it comes in a kit around the > size of a pocket calculator and maybe 8 cm. thick – I find it a great boon > for anywhere I go.

Also just about any Tandy’s (known and reviled by we frostbacks as "Radio Sh*t"…er, Shack)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find > an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here > only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, > but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere > in Sydney… > Just out of interest, for what kind of device(s) do you need the > ground? For ‘outdoor’ use, a grounded device can be more dangerous > than one which does not need a ground. > Having said that: I have seen many adapters US/Canada -> Australia, > but never with a ground. If you really need one, then I advise to > bring a US ‘counter-plug’ (i.e. socket) with a piece of 3-wire cable. > Then in Oz, you buy an Aussie plug and wire it up to the cable. You > can buy plugs in most (big(ger)) supermarkets.

I may not need the ground, but I’d rather have it than not. The devices I’ll be using are 1) my Braun ‘lectric shaver recharger, and 2) a Canon digital camera battery charger. I’m sure both would work without the ground. Richard

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wrote in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> in article >> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find >> an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here >> only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, >> but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere >> in Sydney… >> Richard > Any Dick Smith’s would have it. Also, the good luggage stores here > (Canada) have a multi-plug kit (Sanyo, I believe) which works for > just about all voltages and sockets found around the world – it comes > in a kit around the size of a pocket calculator and maybe 8 cm. thick > – I find it a great boon for anywhere I go. > Also just about any Tandy’s (known and reviled by we frostbacks as > "Radio Sh*t"…er, Shack)

The Shack in Toronto doesn’t have the plugs with grounds. But I’m really wondering if the ground is even necessary. Richard

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find >> an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here >> only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, >> but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere >> in Sydney… > Just out of interest, for what kind of device(s) do you need the > ground? For ‘outdoor’ use, a grounded device can be more dangerous > than one which does not need a ground. > Having said that: I have seen many adapters US/Canada -> Australia, > but never with a ground. If you really need one, then I advise to > bring a US ‘counter-plug’ (i.e. socket) with a piece of 3-wire cable. > Then in Oz, you buy an Aussie plug and wire it up to the cable. You > can buy plugs in most (big(ger)) supermarkets. > I may not need the ground, but I’d rather have it than not. The devices > I’ll be using are 1) my Braun ‘lectric shaver recharger, and 2) a Canon > digital camera battery charger. I’m sure both would work without the > ground.

These kind of devices should have a two-’pin’ plug, not a three-’pin’. If they do have a three-’pin’ connector, then the ground pin should *not* be connected, i.e. it might as well be absent. In our country, The Netherlands (aka "Holland"), these devices *must* be ‘double-isolated’ and hence *do not need* a ground pin and hence *are not allowed* to have a ground pin. Perhaps there are some electrical engineers in this group who can explain *why* this is.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find >>> an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here >>> only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, >>> but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere >>> in Sydney… >> Just out of interest, for what kind of device(s) do you need the >> ground? For ‘outdoor’ use, a grounded device can be more dangerous >> than one which does not need a ground. >> Having said that: I have seen many adapters US/Canada -> Australia, >> but never with a ground. If you really need one, then I advise to >> bring a US ‘counter-plug’ (i.e. socket) with a piece of 3-wire cable. >> Then in Oz, you buy an Aussie plug and wire it up to the cable. You >> can buy plugs in most (big(ger)) supermarkets. > I may not need the ground, but I’d rather have it than not. The devices > I’ll be using are 1) my Braun ‘lectric shaver recharger, and 2) a Canon > digital camera battery charger. I’m sure both would work without the > ground. > These kind of devices should have a two-’pin’ plug, not a three-’pin’. > If they do have a three-’pin’ connector, then the ground pin should > *not* be connected, i.e. it might as well be absent. In our country, The > Netherlands (aka "Holland"), these devices *must* be ‘double-isolated’ > and hence *do not need* a ground pin and hence *are not allowed* to have > a ground pin. > Perhaps there are some electrical engineers in this group who can > explain *why* this is.

Hello Frank, Greeting. I thought everything was generally moving toward incorporating a ground-pin in all plugs. Here in Canada and I’m sure also in the US we have double pins with one pin larger than the other, this one being also an effective ground. So the ground pin is being incorporated into the two-pin system, rather than having a separate pin. Larger plugs, as used on computer systems for example, retain the separate ground pin. As you suggest, there may be an EE in the group. I’d love to hear from him/her as well. Richard

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All domestic appliances are double insulated, hence no ground IS necessary. If you’re a belt, braces + person – OK – but it is not necessary. Shavers, rechargers etc sold within Australia have no ground pin. Lawn trimmers, washing machines etc do!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find >>>> an adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here >>>> only have the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, >>>> but I’d rather get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere >>>> in Sydney… >>> Just out of interest, for what kind of device(s) do you need the >>> ground? For ‘outdoor’ use, a grounded device can be more dangerous >>> than one which does not need a ground. >>> Having said that: I have seen many adapters US/Canada -> Australia, >>> but never with a ground. If you really need one, then I advise to >>> bring a US ‘counter-plug’ (i.e. socket) with a piece of 3-wire cable. >>> Then in Oz, you buy an Aussie plug and wire it up to the cable. You >>> can buy plugs in most (big(ger)) supermarkets. >> I may not need the ground, but I’d rather have it than not. The > devices >> I’ll be using are 1) my Braun ‘lectric shaver recharger, and 2) a > Canon >> digital camera battery charger. I’m sure both would work without the >> ground. > These kind of devices should have a two-’pin’ plug, not a > three-’pin’. > If they do have a three-’pin’ connector, then the ground pin should > *not* be connected, i.e. it might as well be absent. In our country, > The > Netherlands (aka "Holland"), these devices *must* be ‘double-isolated’ > and hence *do not need* a ground pin and hence *are not allowed* to > have > a ground pin. > Perhaps there are some electrical engineers in this group who can > explain *why* this is. > Hello Frank, > Greeting. I thought everything was generally moving toward incorporating > a ground-pin in all plugs. Here in Canada and I’m sure also in the US we > have double pins with one pin larger than the other, this one being also > an effective ground. So the ground pin is being incorporated into the > two-pin system, rather than having a separate pin. Larger plugs, as used > on computer systems for example, retain the separate ground pin. > As you suggest, there may be an EE in the group. I’d love to hear from > him/her as well. > Richard

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> All domestic appliances are double insulated, hence no ground IS > necessary. If you’re a belt, braces + person – OK – but it is not > necessary. Shavers, rechargers etc sold within Australia have no > ground pin. Lawn trimmers, washing machines etc do!!

Well I plan to be a three-belt person in Australia: one to hold my money and passport, one to hold my digital camera, and one to hold my pants up But I get your point. I think I’ll be fine with the two-prong pins sold here. Cheers, Richard

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>> All domestic appliances are double insulated, hence no ground IS > necessary. If you’re a belt, braces + person – OK – but it is not > necessary. Shavers, rechargers etc sold within Australia have no > ground pin. Lawn trimmers, washing machines etc do!! > Well I plan to be a three-belt person in Australia:

don’t drink-drive after that!

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>>> All domestic appliances are double insulated, hence no ground IS >> necessary. If you’re a belt, braces + person – OK – but it is not >> necessary. Shavers, rechargers etc sold within Australia have no >> ground pin. Lawn trimmers, washing machines etc do!! > Well I plan to be a three-belt person in Australia: > don’t drink-drive after that!

Not *that* kind of belt, Raffi. I do plan on sampling the local brew but only when I’m not renting a car.

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Check also rated inputs for your devices, Aus is 240 volts Canada is 110, if you have the right plug and the device isnt switchable or self adjusting, you will just end up with a burned out charger. I had it the other way moving to Canada from Aus, had to get a step up transformer for those few items I just cant replace. When I got to Canada from Aus, Canon sold a Cable with Canadian plug on it, my camera chargers both Canon for dv and still had autovoltage selection built in so they were fine check perhaps braun/Canon sites for Cables with Aus ends Snowbound Aus —

| | > All domestic appliances are double insulated, hence no ground IS | > necessary. If you’re a belt, braces + person – OK – but it is not | > necessary. Shavers, rechargers etc sold within Australia have no | > ground pin. Lawn trimmers, washing machines etc do!! | | Well I plan to be a three-belt person in Australia: one to hold my money | and passport, one to hold my digital camera, and one to hold my pants up | | | But I get your point. I think I’ll be fine with the two-prong pins sold | here. Cheers, | | Richard

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wrote >> The subject says it: looking for a store in Sydney where I can find an >> adapter to the US/Canada electrical plug. The ones they sell here only have >> the two angles pins, not the ground. It still might work, but I’d rather >> get the correct plug and I’m sure it’s sold somewhere in Sydney… >> Richard > Any Dick Smith’s would have it. Also, the good luggage stores here (Canada) > have a multi-plug kit (Sanyo, I believe) which works for just about all > voltages and sockets found around the world – it comes in a kit around the > size of a pocket calculator and maybe 8 cm. thick – I find it a great boon > for anywhere I go. > Also just about any Tandy’s (known and reviled by we frostbacks as "Radio > Sh*t"…er, Shack)

Tandy in Oz has been bought out by Dick Smith and is being rebanded as Dick Smith. BTW they are both part of our Woolworths. Geoff Lillico

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> Check also rated inputs for your devices, Aus is 240 volts Canada is 110, if > you have the right plug and the device isnt switchable or self adjusting, you > will just end up with a burned out charger. I had it the other way moving to > Canada from Aus, had to get a step up transformer for those few items I just > cant replace. > When I got to Canada from Aus, Canon sold a Cable with Canadian plug on it, my > camera chargers both Canon for dv and still had autovoltage selection built in > so they were fine check perhaps braun/Canon sites for Cables with Aus ends > Snowbound Aus

Here’s another trick I used for smallish items like camera batteries: I brought along a car inverter (one of those $39.95 jobs from Crappy Tire – Canadian Tyre – C’najun Ti….oh, forget it), plugged it into my car’s lighter, and charged away at 110 with my N.Am. sockets. Worked a treat!

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This was self-evident I thought, but you’re right I suppose, some people haven’t a clue about different voltage systems. I only wish my electric toothbrush had dual voltage, have to bring along the clunkier battery operated one instead Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Check also rated inputs for your devices, Aus is 240 volts Canada is > 110, if you have the right plug and the device isnt switchable or self > adjusting, you will just end up with a burned out charger. I had it > the other way moving to Canada from Aus, had to get a step up > transformer for those few items I just cant replace. > When I got to Canada from Aus, Canon sold a Cable with Canadian plug > on it, my camera chargers both Canon for dv and still had autovoltage > selection built in so they were fine check perhaps braun/Canon sites > for Cables with Aus ends > Snowbound Aus

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> This was self-evident I thought, but you’re right I suppose, some people > haven’t a clue about different voltage systems. > I only wish my electric toothbrush had dual voltage, have to bring along > the clunkier battery operated one instead > Richard

We hold these tooths to be self-evident, that all voltages are created equal?

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>> This was self-evident I thought, but you’re right I suppose, some people > haven’t a clue about different voltage systems. > I only wish my electric toothbrush had dual voltage, have to bring along > the clunkier battery operated one instead > Richard > We hold these tooths to be self-evident, that all voltages are created > equal?

You’ve let yourself (mis)quote some Yankee blather to make a joke? Must be the weather….

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>> We hold these tooths to be self-evident, that all voltages are created > equal? > You’ve let yourself (mis)quote some Yankee blather to make a joke? Must be > the weather….

Yes, one of their most erudite slave-owning libertarians….

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> This was self-evident I thought, but you’re right I suppose, some people >> haven’t a clue about different voltage systems. >> I only wish my electric toothbrush had dual voltage, have to bring along >> the clunkier battery operated one instead >> Richard > We hold these tooths to be self-evident, that all voltages are created > equal? > You’ve let yourself (mis)quote some Yankee blather to make a joke? Must be > the weather….

PS – for heaven’s sake, Richard, take the batteries out before you go! A while back, a plane had to make an emergency landing because the cockpit sensor detected abnormal activity in the cargo hold. They suspected a bomb. Ended up somebody’s vibrator had been turned on. Dunno if the luggage was ever claimed……

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wrote in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> wrote in >>> This was self-evident I thought, but you’re right I suppose, some >>> people haven’t a clue about different voltage systems. >>> I only wish my electric toothbrush had dual voltage, have to bring >>> along the clunkier battery operated one instead >>> Richard >> We hold these tooths to be self-evident, that all voltages are >> created equal? > You’ve let yourself (mis)quote some Yankee blather to make a joke? > Must be the weather…. > PS – for heaven’s sake, Richard, take the batteries out before you go! > A while back, a plane had to make an emergency landing because the > cockpit sensor detected abnormal activity in the cargo hold. They > suspected a bomb. > Ended up somebody’s vibrator had been turned on. Dunno if the luggage > was ever claimed……

I’ve made enquires, the wife sees no reason to be taking her vibrator And I only brush my teeth with a certified *tooth brush* %-}

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>> Ended up somebody’s vibrator had been turned on. Dunno if the luggage > was ever claimed…… > I’ve made enquires, the wife sees no reason to be taking her vibrator > And I only brush my teeth with a certified *tooth brush* %-}

So she is not the Newfoundlander who chipped her teeth on….never mind. This is WAAAY off topic. Anyway, remove the batteries from the toothbrush…

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wrote in >> Ended up somebody’s vibrator had been turned on. Dunno if the >> luggage was ever claimed…… > I’ve made enquires, the wife sees no reason to be taking her vibrator > And I only brush my teeth with a certified *tooth brush* %-} > So she is not the Newfoundlander who chipped her teeth on….never > mind. This is WAAAY off topic. Anyway, remove the batteries from the > toothbrush…

Duly noted! Batteries removed from said toothbrush. (And my wife comes from France, actually, not the Maritimes

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> Duly noted! Batteries removed from said toothbrush. (And my wife comes from > France, actually, not the Maritimes

A Frenchwoman, a Torontonian and an Australian walk into a bar……

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wrote in > Duly noted! Batteries removed from said toothbrush. (And my wife > comes from France, actually, not the Maritimes > A Frenchwoman, a Torontonian and an Australian walk into a bar……

I’ll know the punch line in a couple of weeks …

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Hi, I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? any help would be great. Tommy

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you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital camera to > take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont have a laptop or > anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures from a digital camera to a > website in an internet cafe? > any help would be great. > Tommy

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Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible and if > the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP > Hi, > I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital camera to > take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont have a laptop or > anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures from a digital camera to a > website in an internet cafe? > any help would be great. > Tommy

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viruses from digi cameras? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to buy a > few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). on > you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible and if > the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP >> Hi, >> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital camera to >> take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont have a laptop or >> anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures from a digital camera to a >> website in an internet cafe? >> any help would be great. >> Tommy

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> viruses from digi cameras?

uploads in general.

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Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going to do. Richard wrote in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to > buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). > you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible > and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP >> Hi, >> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital >> camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont >> have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures >> from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? >> any help would be great. >> Tommy

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over at Walgreen’s there are machines that accept cards and printout pics for nominal fee … its on every corner here

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going to > do. > Richard > wrote in > Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to > buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). >> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible >> and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP >>> Hi, >>> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital >>> camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont >>> have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures >>> from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? >>> any help would be great. >>> Tommy

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What about finding a place that will let you just move the photos from the memory card to a CD, as I would rather wait til I get home to print the photos. Sharon Canada

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> over at Walgreen’s there are machines that accept cards and printout pics > for nominal fee … its on every corner here > Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going to > do. > Richard > wrote in > > Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to > > buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). > >> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible > >> and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP > >>> Hi, > >>> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital > >>> camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont > >>> have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures > >>> from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? > >>> any help would be great. > >>> Tommy

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that i don’t know, but if you carry a USB cable with you there will most likely be a hotel PC that for a small will allow you to e-mail out your photos … just make sure that whatever e-mail account you are gonna consolidate your photos in (at the other end) has enough storage to accommodate the entire trip … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What about finding a place that will let you just move the photos from the > memory card to a CD, as I would rather wait til I get home to print the > photos. > Sharon > Canada > over at Walgreen’s there are machines that accept cards and printout pics > for nominal fee … its on every corner here > > Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in > > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, > > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going > to > > do. > > Richard > > wrote in > > > Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to > > > buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). > > >> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible > > >> and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP > > >>> Hi, > > >>> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital > > >>> camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont > > >>> have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures > > >>> from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? > > >>> any help would be great. > > >>> Tommy

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On my last trip I took about 45 to 50 Mb of pics *per day*, and I don’t think I would find an internet cafe that would allow me to dump that much online – every single day of my trip. Much better, I think, is to bring along a handy portable drive and dump them all on it, to print up at my leisure when I get home. I’m still printing up the Italian photos, and that was last September. Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> that i don’t know, but if you carry a USB cable with you there will > most likely be a hotel PC that for a small will allow you to e-mail > out your photos … just make sure that whatever e-mail account you > are gonna consolidate your photos in (at the other end) has enough > storage to accommodate the entire trip … wrote in > What about finding a place that will let you just move the photos > from the memory card to a CD, as I would rather wait til I get home > to print the photos. > Sharon > Canada > > over at Walgreen’s there are machines that accept cards and > > printout > pics > > for nominal fee … its on every corner here > > > Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two > > > weeks > in > > > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of > cards, > > > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m > > > going > to > > > do. > > > Richard > > > Raffi Balmanoukian in

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > ca: > > > > Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. > > > > Better to buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive > > > > any more). > > > >> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB > compatible > > > >> and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a > > > >>> digital camera to take with me. Only I am intending to > > > >>> backpack so I wont have a laptop or anything. Will I be able > > > >>> to upload the pictures from a digital camera to a website in > > > >>> an internet cafe? any help would be great. > > > >>> Tommy

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Most will happily do it for you (about $5); some will allow you to do it for yourself. Big W (a department store like Walmart) and K Mart each have ‘do it yourself’ printing machines which take all memory cards! Most photo processors also handle digital media – but are often more expensive than other facilities.

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> Most will happily do it for you (about $5); some will allow you to do it for > yourself. > Big W (a department store like Walmart) and K Mart each have ‘do it > yourself’ printing machines which take all memory cards! Most photo > processors also handle digital media – but are often more expensive than > other facilities.

Many labs will print direct from your digital media, and some will put your photos on cd…. I’ve never actually asked, but presumably some will copy your photos from digital media to cd, for a price. Dave Campbell.

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> Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going to > do.

There are also dedicated CD (re)writers which read camera cards and write CDs, i.e. without the use of a computer. One such device is the "Disc Steno CP100" from Apacer. Costs about AUD 340 in our country (The Netherlands). Details at: http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp100.asp I still would have doubts about such a device, because you never know *for sure* that your pictures made it correctly to the CD(s). So I’d rather use a PC or some service which does the work for you and shows the result (from CD).

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> viruses from digi cameras?

To a PC, most cameras look like a disk, i.e. they can’t tell the difference between a ‘flopp’, CD, ZIP disk, etc. and a camera.

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I’d be even MORE inclined against that – you plug your hard drive into an internet cafe’s computer (remember, the OP wasn’t taking a laptop), it can get infected with godknowswhat, which then gets on your home ‘puter. I shoot with a 5.4 MP with maximum resolution but small size – the files work out to around 1 meg each, which I then crop, tweak and blow up on my home computer – they produce lovely 8 x 10s with nary graininess or digitization. The key is resolution more than size – so for your 1024 MB in cards, it would be roughly 1000 photos, or 71 photos per day. The way I shoot, that would be around the same as shooting 5 or 6 rolls of 36, since you can edit, delete, etc. as you go along with digital. I carry 8 x 256 MB cards, shoot like mad, and have yet to run out of space.

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wrote in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks > in Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of > cards, nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which > I’m going to do. > Richard > I’d be even MORE inclined against that – you plug your hard drive into > an internet cafe’s computer (remember, the OP wasn’t taking a laptop), > it can get infected with godknowswhat, which then gets on your home > ‘puter. > I shoot with a 5.4 MP with maximum resolution but small size – the > files work out to around 1 meg each, which I then crop, tweak and blow > up on my home computer – they produce lovely 8 x 10s with nary > graininess or digitization. The key is resolution more than size – so > for your 1024 MB in cards, it would be roughly 1000 photos, or 71 > photos per day. The way I shoot, that would be around the same as > shooting 5 or 6 rolls of 36, since you can edit, delete, etc. as you > go along with digital. I carry 8 x 256 MB cards, shoot like mad, and > have yet to run out of space.

‘inclined against’ … what? You are apparently assuming I’m going to dump the contents of my portable hard drive into an internet cafe’s computer. Why? The point is to store all my photos on the portable hard drive til I get back home, then transfer them to my own computer. No worries about viruses that way. I also shoot with a 5 mp camera (Canon G5) with max resolution and largest size – the files are quite large as you can imagine. I get about 200 images per 512 Mb card. These make fantastic prints btw. (Just bought an Epson i900 and can attest to the quality.) As for the rate of shooting, I can shoot 70 photos in about two-three hours, never mind a whole day. With a 20 Gig portable hard drive I don’t worry about the number of shots. When the 512 memory card is full, it’s transferred to the portable hard drive, emptied and so on. I’ve got two 512 Mb cards, might get another one before I leave, but resist getting anything larger. I don’t like the idea of having a half dozen or more memory cards loaded with images, waiting to get home. Having done some ‘test shooting’ in Italy, I find that I will probably come home with a full 20 gig portable hard drive. Richard

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > wrote in >> Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks >> in Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of >> cards, nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which >> I’m going to do. >> Richard > I’d be even MORE inclined against that – you plug your hard drive into > an internet cafe’s computer (remember, the OP wasn’t taking a laptop), > it can get infected with godknowswhat, which then gets on your home > ‘puter. > I shoot with a 5.4 MP with maximum resolution but small size – the > files work out to around 1 meg each, which I then crop, tweak and blow > up on my home computer – they produce lovely 8 x 10s with nary > graininess or digitization. The key is resolution more than size – so > for your 1024 MB in cards, it would be roughly 1000 photos, or 71 > photos per day. The way I shoot, that would be around the same as > shooting 5 or 6 rolls of 36, since you can edit, delete, etc. as you > go along with digital. I carry 8 x 256 MB cards, shoot like mad, and > have yet to run out of space. > ‘inclined against’ … what? You are apparently assuming I’m going to > dump the contents of my portable hard drive into an internet cafe’s > computer. Why? The point is to store all my photos on the portable hard > drive til I get back home, then transfer them to my own computer. No > worries about viruses that way.

nooooo……you hook up your portable hard drive to a public computer, who knows what kind of crap it will catch while you are transferring your shots.

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Most photo shops in Australia will have the facility to burn your photos from your card to a cd. Post the CD home. Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What about finding a place that will let you just move the photos from the > memory card to a CD, as I would rather wait til I get home to print the > photos. > Sharon > Canada > over at Walgreen’s there are machines that accept cards and printout pics > for nominal fee … its on every corner here > > Buy a few extra cards … hmm, I filled two 512 Mb cards in two weeks in > > Italy, so for two months in Australia that means 4 Gigs worth of cards, > > nope I think it’s better to buy a portable hard drive, which I’m going > to > > do. > > Richard > > wrote in > > > Many internet cafes won’t allow this for fear of viruses. Better to > > > buy a few extra cards (they aren’t terribly expensive any more). > > >> you should if you bring a USB cable and your camera is USB compatible > > >> and if the PCs in the cafes will run WinXP > > >>> Hi, > > >>> I’m coming to Oz in March and I’m thinking of buying a digital > > >>> camera to take with me. Only I am intending to backpack so I wont > > >>> have a laptop or anything. Will I be able to upload the pictures > > >>> from a digital camera to a website in an internet cafe? > > >>> any help would be great. > > >>> Tommy

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Wd had no difficulty sending pictures home from Internet Cafes or pubic libraries

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And trust the post I’ve been listening to 3AW for the past hour, and the many listeners who have horror stories about the Australian Post. If that sounds negative, if you mail enough CDs home (a long trip can create a lot of CDs) there’s a good chance at least one might not make it. Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Most photo shops in Australia will have the facility to burn your > photos from your card to a cd. Post the CD home. > Julie

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The mail service in Australia is excellent!!! (3AW is another matter – talkback radio – hillbilly heaven!)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And trust the post I’ve been listening to 3AW for the past hour, and > the many listeners who have horror stories about the Australian Post. > If that sounds negative, if you mail enough CDs home (a long trip can > create a lot of CDs) there’s a good chance at least one might not make it. > Richard > Most photo shops in Australia will have the facility to burn your > photos from your card to a cd. Post the CD home. > Julie

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> The mail service in Australia is excellent!!! (3AW is another matter – > talkback radio – hillbilly heaven!)

You don’t work for them (post office) do you The hillbilly stuff is usually on at a different time, Ross Stevenson and John Burns don’t play any on their show. As far as I can understand most of Australia seems to be stuck in the 60s and even 50s when it comes to music. As with all phone-in shows there is a tendency to concentrate on the troubles – whatever the topic. Yesterday it was the horrors of the post office delivery system. Richard

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Do you, or anybody else, have some URLs for Oz web radio stations that you like (or URLs of lists of …)? I have found some, but the lists are often rather meaningless because they do not give much detail about the stations. Often they only give the name of the station (‘call sign’), the location/city/etc., and, if you’re lucky, a vague ‘format’ description (i.e. news, easy listening, etc.). FWIW, I like the outback, Aussie country songs and news, but not mostly news or mostly talk. The URLs I have are: Radio Locator (Australia pages) http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/nation?ccode=au&go.x=14&go.y=4 CrHear.com http://www.crhear.com/ Saturday Night Country http://www.abc.net.au/snc/ I also have this URL, http://www.web-radio.fm/in_a.cfm , but that does not work right now, which might be a problem with my ISP. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The mail service in Australia is excellent!!! (3AW is another matter – > talkback radio – hillbilly heaven!) > You don’t work for them (post office) do you > The hillbilly stuff is usually on at a different time, Ross Stevenson and > John Burns don’t play any on their show. > As far as I can understand most of Australia seems to be stuck in the 60s > and even 50s when it comes to music. As with all phone-in shows there is a > tendency to concentrate on the troubles – whatever the topic. Yesterday it > was the horrors of the post office delivery system. > Richard

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Frank Slootweg schreef: > Do you, or anybody else, have some URLs for Oz web radio stations > that you like (or URLs of lists of …)?

I would love to know too. Thanks Frank for your links. — gwendolen

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Do you, or anybody else, have some URLs for Oz web radio stations > that > you like (or URLs of lists of …)? > I have found some, but the lists are often rather meaningless > because > they do not give much detail about the stations. Often they only give > the name of the station (‘call sign’), the location/city/etc., and, if > you’re lucky, a vague ‘format’ description (i.e. news, easy listening, > etc.). > FWIW, I like the outback, Aussie country songs and news, but not > mostly news or mostly talk. > The URLs I have are: > Radio Locator (Australia pages) > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/nation?ccode=au&go.x=14&go.y=4 > CrHear.com http://www.crhear.com/ > Saturday Night Country http://www.abc.net.au/snc/ > I also have this URL, http://www.web-radio.fm/in_a.cfm , but that does > not work right now, which might be a problem with my ISP.

The link you give above (http://www.web-radio.fm/in_a.cfm) lists all the stations available, I believe. If you can’t get connected by clicking on any particular link, try Google to get the station directly. You can also try www.xxx.com.au, for example 2UE (Sydney) is www.2ue.com.au; 3AW would be www.3aw.com.au, and so on. There might be a problem finding just the kind of station you want, depending on your taste. I particularly like the guys on 3AW from 1.30 ET to 4.30 ET (my local time) but you’ll have to shop around. Lots play music, the kind I personally can’t listen to. One, in Adelaide, is a university station that has lots of unusual stuff, including once a lecture by Noam Chomsky… Richard

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