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My first Gig! I hate the drummer! ( :
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Yeah – but recording can be a bad option as well. I’ve worked in TV and recording media for 25 years now and have worked on some big live concerts here in Australia. Recording yourself creates big expectations that it will sound like a CD recording. Don’t listen for that. hard to explain. Even our lead guitarist (who is the chief engineer at the main FM station here) expected more out of a couple of our live recordings, so I’ve not bothered any more. I’ve done minimalist recordings for some really good bands that have sounded shithot while we are recording (with only a couple of mics and a PA split) and it is really hard to get a good result from that. Listen for some things, but for god’s sake don’t think that is what you sounded like to the punters, it was most certainly a lot better than that. Cheers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When we record ourselves at practice, no one wants to hit the play button >for playback. I know in my head, I start to count how many times I screwed >up or lost my groove. The minute the play button gets pushed down we perform >this shy kind of hiding thing. I sit along side of my cabinet, the guitar >player stands behind his. The singer goes off into the corner and the >drummer lowers his seat so you can only see the top of his head. When the >music starts playing, it’s like children coming out from hide-and-go-seek. >One by one we stick our heads out and say, "That’s us playing?" That shit >sounds good. So with that: >The sentence below is beautiful. > I now just put it down to "it’s amazing what you can get away with" >
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> This leads me to why I > HATE THE DRUMMER! I really like the guy, he’s a good new friend but when it > comes to playing. I HATE THE DRUMMER! WHAT THE HELL WAS HE PLAYING LAST > NIGHT! Mr. EXPERIENCED and "I’ll get you through your first gig." Yeah > right! Practice went right out the window and the beats in 7 out of our 25 > covers songs changed all of a sudden. I had to work so GOD DAM (sorry for > cursing) hard in keeping it all together. If he missed a beat I had to stay > with him. He speeded up, slowed down, lost sticks, came in early, came in > late. Oh my God, I thought I was going to die. I was working my ass off.
Maybe he was nervous, or… well, I shouldn’t say this, because drummers really have a good reputation, and I’ve never known this to happen to a real live drummer, though I’ve heard, you know, rumors, from like the West Indies and stuff that this happens, but perhaps – just maybe – he was drunk? Do > all of you fellow bass player go through this on a regular basis?
I haven’t gigged enough to speak for everyone, but, yeah, sooner or later, one of your band members will suck up a show. I don’t know that I’d go in the next practice ready to chew the guy out without first honestly exploring what the deal was. Cuz, I’m telling you, you’ll have your turn, too. My flow > had to be compromised so much that was beginning to SUCK. I thought we > totally sucked. Hard to tell from the crowd.
Hey, it was a bar gig. Live music always sounds better to the audience than to the musicians, doubly so when there’s beer involved. > What I learned. > In regards to playing covers, playing in a band is only different from > playing at home with a CD if your fellow musicians are not as precise as you > in copying a cover tune. That’s the bottom line.
Certainly not as thrilling. And, for me, there’s more to playing live than duplicating someone else’s bass part. For one, I never play the same part the same way twice, not even on our originals. Then there’s the idea of playing to the crowd. You gotta be able to communicate to the other musicians telepathically almost, through your lines and phrasing. > Did I mention I love playing bass?
Yeah, man. Me, too.
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> Hooray for CptnSpldng > Hooray for CptnSpldng > /bangs head on desk trying to remember the rest of that song > —
"The Africa explorer" more i dont recall — Soren
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When we record ourselves at practice, no one wants to hit the play button for playback. I know in my head, I start to count how many times I screwed up or lost my groove. The minute the play button gets pushed down we perform this shy kind of hiding thing. I sit along side of my cabinet, the guitar player stands behind his. The singer goes off into the corner and the drummer lowers his seat so you can only see the top of his head. When the music starts playing, it’s like children coming out from hide-and-go-seek. One by one we stick our heads out and say, "That’s us playing?" That shit sounds good. So with that: The sentence below is beautiful. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I now just put it down to "it’s amazing what you can get away with" >
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<< Hooray for CptnSpldng Hooray for CptnSpldng /bangs head on desk trying to remember the rest of that song — -rob O< "Say the secret word and win a hundred $" /() >> "I shot an elephant in my pajamas…How he got in my pajamas I’ll never know." Charlie CptnSpldng (baritone player – Danelectro & Fender Sub Sonic)
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A good idea for a new band like this is to tape your gigs. Then at the next practice you do a "post mortem" of the gig. Listen for what each person did right and did wrong so you know what to work on for next time. Don’t bust anybodys balls, just use it as a "we all know what we need to work on" tool.
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I think the more you practice the more you are critical of yourself. We’ve played quite a few times where we thought is sounded shit, and everyone comes up and congratulates us on sounding great! It can’t be cloth ears because some of the guys have been sober and or good music afficionados (although not musos themselves). I now just put it down to "it’s amazing what you can get away with"
Cheers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >yeah mike >i had the same experience. first guitarist. and first gig like guitarist. i >had my hands contracted by the fear. there were about 50 persons, and a half >were friends. >we started by the stevie ray vaughan "mary had a little lamb" version. and i >sucked completly the licks of intro, played chords only….. i was shame. >and i played over 8 tunes before decontract me. an horror. a friends >recorded us. and sometimes, i hear it. it’s awfull. a big suck. and today i >still ask me; but; why ? why all persons congrats us, wanted to see us play >more, others gigs, ect ….. ? i think they drunk too much :) >now i’m bassist; and i love playing bass too
>basst
