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I was a bit shocked to discover that NW only allows one carryon per passenger, at least for its international flights. Is that industry standard? Why? Has anyone ever managed to get by for a week in Europe with only one piece of luggage (likely a large backpack) or should I give up my fantasy now? Does a large purse/briefcase/bag count as an additional carryon? Help! —

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>I was a bit shocked to discover that NW only allows one >carryon per passenger, at least for its international >flights. Is that industry standard? Why? Has anyone ever >managed to get by for a week in Europe with only one piece >of luggage (likely a large backpack) or should I give up my >fantasy now? Does a large purse/briefcase/bag count as an >additional carryon?

   I recently flew to Sidney, AU from LAX and then from Sidney to SFO. They only allowed 1 carry on.  On the way there they enforced it (flight was full) on the way back they did not (flight was half full on XMAS day).  This was on United. dennis

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> I was a bit shocked to discover that NW only allows one > carryon per passenger, at least for its international > flights. Is that industry standard? Why? Has anyone ever > managed to get by for a week in Europe with only one piece > of luggage (likely a large backpack) or should I give up my > fantasy now? Does a large purse/briefcase/bag count as an > additional carryon?

Yes, I too was surprised to discover this.  Actually, I didn’t find out until my RETURN trip from London/Gatwick to Minneapolis this past November.  1 carry-on item!  Harumph!  Well, it didn’t make any difference.  Neither the NW gate personnel nor the flight attendants said anything about my 2 carry-ons.  YMMV. Of course, they were REASONABLE size carry-ons: a briefcase and a small piece of luggage.  IMHO, many (not all) people try to carry on these outrageously huge pieces of luggage, which really ought to be checked in the first place.  Perhaps Northwest has this rule on international flights in order to discourage this practice. My personal rule of thumb is: if I can check a piece of luggage (i.e. the bag is of non-trivial size, it’s not fragile/sensitive, and I’m not in a hurry at my arrival airport) then I check it. It makes for a much more comfortable flight for everyone. Cheers, Henry — NBCS: B4 f+ c d g++ r p "Now I can cry until I laugh or laugh until I cry, so cut the deck right in half I’ll play from either side"  – Mary-Chapin Carpenter

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>> I was a bit shocked to discover that NW only allows one > carryon per passenger, at least for its international > flights. Is that industry standard? Why? >Yes, I too was surprised to discover this.

I believe baggage limits on international flights are stricter than for domestic flights. >Of course, they were REASONABLE size carry-ons: a briefcase >and a small piece of luggage.

Remember that some things don’t count as a carry-on: a woman’s purse (a small one–not one of those big honkers that can fit a car in it), an umbrella, a cane, a camera (not a full sized camera bag) and fanny pack usually don’t count. — UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our   o|<0_0>——* libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant      =^-| |_| | nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]    _B}_B}

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: : I was a bit shocked to discover that NW only allows one : : carryon per passenger, at least for its international : : flights. Is that industry standard? Why? Has anyone ever : : managed to get by for a week in Europe with only one piece : : of luggage (likely a large backpack) or should I give up my : : fantasy now? Does a large purse/briefcase/bag count as an : : additional carryon? 1. I’m not sure if it is a "regulation", but it is a common practice on aircraft with limited overhead space. It does vary by carrier (and occasionally by country…). 2. As a nonrev, I’ve made several trips using my Jansport pseudobackpack, which -does- fit into the overhead and under the seat in front of me as long as it isn’t overstuffed… : Have you ever thought of the novel idea of perhaps CHECKING your luggage! : Wow! just imagine somebody might be able to use the overhead bin to put : in their jacket or sweater. Umm… Not going to dive at this one, but not all passengers want to check their bags. As long as they fit in the overhead or under a seat, I don’t see what the problem is… : I’m not sure whether you are just an inexperienced traveller who really : does not deserve this flame or one of those selfish hogs who insist on : taking all their luggage into the cabin with them because they are just : TOO important to wait at the luggagage carousel like everyone else   (more ranting and raving snipped) Please…. the self-righteousness tone is blinding me… Besides, flames aren’t welcome IMHO ’round here…. Save it for somewhere else please. E — |    "Views expressed here do not represent the airline that I work for!    |

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>     If I am not mistaken, the international standard is any combination of > 3 bags checked and carried on, subject to the usual weight and size > restrictions.  Yes, this means that if you don’t check anything you are more > than welcome to bring three pieces on the plane AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE SIZE > RESTRICTIONS.  This comes straight off the Trans-Atlantic tix I currently have > in my possession (AY).  Naturally, this doesn’t include coats, purses, canes, > fanny packs, etc.  Hopefully, this will clear this up.  Have fun!

Is there any difference in the baggage allowance between trans-Pacific flights and trans-Atlantic flights?  If my memory serves, For Y-class you are allowed three pieces of baggage on trans-Pacific international flights: one piece not exceeding 62 inches in outside linear dimensions (length + width + height) and 77lbs in weight, one piece not exceeding 55 inches in outside linear dimensions and 77lbs in weight, and a piece of carry-on not exceeding 22×14x9 inches in dimension.  I’ve flown enough trans-Pacific segments like those numbers stick to the back of my mind. I thought the three-piece rule (carry-on or checked-in) only applies to domestic flights (that you are bring 0 to 3 pieces as carry-on). — "And this is all I have to say about that…"   – F. Gump       ___      (o o) ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel

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>I think it is international regulation that only one piece of carry-on >luggage with dimension not exceeding 22×14x9in is allowed on >international flights…

To be more specific, the maximum allowable size is 45" total (the 22×14x9 would come up to that), so that bags with slightly odd dimensions that come up to 45" are apparently okay. Main thing is that you can put it into those size-tester things by the check-in counter. — UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our   o|<0_0>——* libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant      =^-| |_| | nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]    _B}_B}

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>Have you ever thought of the novel idea of perhaps CHECKING your luggage!

There are advantages and disadvantages to both. I personally do not like having to luge everything around when I don’t need to–so I pack light and travel with just a carry-on. As a single woman traveling alone, I find it tends to be much safer. In addition, I know people who’ve had their luggage delayed (heck–if you’re here in Hawaii for 6 days and your luggage arrives three days later, that’s half your trip). >I’m not sure whether you are just an inexperienced traveller who really >does not deserve this flame or one of those selfish hogs who insist on >taking all their luggage into the cabin with them because they are just >TOO important to wait at the luggagage carousel like everyone else

Hey–there are carry-on luggage hogs (I had to deal with one just two weeks ago), but please do not assume that all carry-on travelers are luggage hogs. There *is* a sane way to pack with just one 45" carry-on, but it involves a good deal of planning and expertise. I personally *like* not having to waste my time waiting for the luggage carousel to crank up…but at the same time, I know better than to be an inconvenience to other travellers so I don’t take more than I can carry comfortably (that means walking with my travel pack for a mile!). >If you just don’t know then my apologies.  If you’re one of the hogs – >then I hope that your luggage is run over by a herd of stampeding >elephants and ‘ported’ by an unfriendly gorilla.

Well, I think people who bring two big suitcases for a one-week trip to warm-clime Hawaii can probably lose their suitcases and still manage to have a good, well-clothed trip. I’m amazed at how much people OVERpack. — UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our   o|<0_0>——* libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant      =^-| |_| | nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]    _B}_B}

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>…I’ve made several trips using my Jansport pseudobackpack, >which -does- fit into the overhead and under the seat in front of me as >long as it isn’t overstuffed…

Is this a convertible travel pack? For a long time, I used the Jansport Weekender and that worked out great. One more thing about this, people. When you say "luggage hogs," exactly how MUCH carry-on luggage are you talking about? the 45" sized carry-ons are all comparable in size to those Rollaboard cases, you know. Mine is soft-sided and has backpack straps I can use (GREAT for running from Terminal 1 on Concourse A to Terminal 300 on concourse ZZZ) but if I zip it up and away, it just looks like a shoulder bag the same size as those Rollaboard cases that all the FAs use. Is THAT what people mean by "hogging up all the space"? — UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our   o|<0_0>——* libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant      =^-| |_| | nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]    _B}_B}

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Quoting teshima from a message in rec.travel.air    : I believe baggage limits on international flights are stricter than    : for domestic flights.    : — Get this, for full C or F fares, there is no extra allowance. Every time I fly I have to beg and cry and plead to check a little extra on my $4000 ticket. I succeed every time, but it is a major effort. Incredible the supposed rigidity in baggage allowances NW has for premium international passengers. On the returns, nary a peep from the agents. I am a full time NW flyer and (generally) enjoy the line, but I get the absolute willies every time I contemplate a NW international trip. Enough to make me think of another carrier.

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