Question (type II): bg levels still high.

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> If you have a digital camera could you take a photo and post it? This > could open up a whole new way of life for us all. A new internet concept: > VRPO – Virtual Reality Pig Outs. And, when will see the dawn of scratch and > sniff emails!

Oh I have scratch and sniff real mail, I usually manage to spill my food on everything

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Maybe so, for you. But I can’t deal with high sugar content, and tend to spike badly when the carbs are broken down by "fiber" and "sugars", if the fiber count is low and the "sugars" are a high percentage of the total. ie, milk has the same number of sugars as it has total carbs, and it sends my bgs through the roof. BTW, we obviously have different nutritional value sources. My frozen peas show 2/3 cup to be 11 grams carbs, so, say 1/2 cup would be 8 grams, which is what my nutrition software says it is. That same software says 1/2 cup carrots are 8 grams. (I only like fresh carrots, so don’t have any packages in the house.) However, there’s a ton of fiber in peas, almost none in carrots. I’m one of those "a carb is not only a carb" school of thought people. My BG reactions don’t match the GI for certain foods, but when it comes to percentages of fiber and sugar in a given carb, my BGs react like clockwork to the number of "sugars" listed in the carb breakdown. I’ll take a legume anytime over any other type veggie with the same total carbs. CarolC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh my, I could never do that! Carrots are full of sugars, from what > I’ve seen, whereas peas, while high carb, are full of fiber and > protein! In my experience, anyway, carrots shoot my bg’s way up, > peas hardly affect them at all. >Just plain carrots??? How many do you eat? A LARGE carrot (72 grams) >only has 7 carb grams. 1/2 cup peas (80 grams) has 11 grams. A small >onion (70 grams) has 6 carb grams. 1/2 cup of boiled cauliflower (62 >grams) has a whopping 2.5 carb grams! On the other hand, 1/2 cup boiled >potato (78 grams) has 15 carb grams as does 1/2 cup boiled parsnips >(again, 78 grams and for MY carb "money" a far better purchase because >they have so much flavor). Anyway…I’m betting I could make a pretty >bodacious "cottage pi(e)" with one large carrot, 1/4 cup peas, 1/4 cup >chopped onion, with 1/2 cup sauce (thickened with a full tablespoon of >flour – carb cost 6 grams) and topped with 1/2 cup whipped >cauliflower… All for 24 carb grams…not LOW carb, but certainly not >high either… Of course this would be done with no pastry… I would >probably add 1/4 cup of parsnips to it all and bring it up to 31 grams, >but that would work for me…and if it didn’t, I’d cut out the peas >entirely in favor of the carrots and parsnips… >Carol P.

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If you have a digital camera could you take a photo and post it? This could open up a whole new way of life for us all. A new internet concept: VRPO – Virtual Reality Pig Outs. And, when will see the dawn of scratch and sniff emails! Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until > then, I > have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about > those I > won’t! > Actually once you get past this initial lowering of bg’s you may well > find you can have things like cottage pie, although in a smaller, > controlled portion. A lot of us have a bit of what we like still. My > favourite cottage pie variation is leftover roast lamb and baked veges > plus peas or beans in a thick rich gravy and topped with mashed > potato. Years ago I used to put grated cheeese and crumbled potato > chips/crisps on top before going under the griller.

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>Actually once you get past this initial lowering of bg’s you may well >find you can have things like cottage pie, although in a smaller, >controlled portion.

Oh my, from your mouth to "the great whoever’s" ears! CarolC )

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> Perhaps you could do it ith carrots >instread of peas and a thinner topping of potatoes on top.

Oh my, I could never do that! Carrots are full of sugars, from what I’ve seen, whereas peas, while high carb, are full of fiber and protein! In my experience, anyway, carrots shoot my bg’s way up, peas hardly affect them at all. CarolC

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> I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until then, I > have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about those I > won’t!

Actually once you get past this initial lowering of bg’s you may well find you can have things like cottage pie, although in a smaller, controlled portion. A lot of us have a bit of what we like still. My favourite cottage pie variation is leftover roast lamb and baked veges plus peas or beans in a thick rich gravy and topped with mashed potato. Years ago I used to put grated cheeese and crumbled potato chips/crisps on top before going under the griller.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear Peter, welcome to the group. You have been asking such good questions > and getting lots of helpful advice, the specialty here. I noticed that many > of the ladies are having conversations with you…we love a man with a > British accent! My family just returned two weeks ago from a Holiday in > London. My favorite city in the world! It was really sad to see the news > about H & M and the impact on peoples lives, generations of farming history > in danger. Hope can be controlled soon. > Now to my own personal nightmare…waiting 25 years to return to UK and > can’t eat puddings with custard!!!! :0 ( Sure I could have squeezed in a > small portion into my eating plan, but who can have just a few bites!?!?!? > My sad lot in life. At least here, so I’m not tortured, almost no one knows > the joy of warm custard over a raspberry pud!

Isn’t custard a US thing??? Sad. Warm brandy custard over traditional christmas pudding, yum :-)

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> I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until then, I > have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about those I > won’t! > Peter > Same as with women…

Lol

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> Oh my, I could never do that! Carrots are full of sugars, from what > I’ve seen, whereas peas, while high carb, are full of fiber and > protein! In my experience, anyway, carrots shoot my bg’s way up, > peas hardly affect them at all.

Just plain carrots??? How many do you eat? A LARGE carrot (72 grams) only has 7 carb grams. 1/2 cup peas (80 grams) has 11 grams. A small onion (70 grams) has 6 carb grams. 1/2 cup of boiled cauliflower (62 grams) has a whopping 2.5 carb grams! On the other hand, 1/2 cup boiled potato (78 grams) has 15 carb grams as does 1/2 cup boiled parsnips (again, 78 grams and for MY carb "money" a far better purchase because they have so much flavor). Anyway…I’m betting I could make a pretty bodacious "cottage pi(e)" with one large carrot, 1/4 cup peas, 1/4 cup chopped onion, with 1/2 cup sauce (thickened with a full tablespoon of flour – carb cost 6 grams) and topped with 1/2 cup whipped cauliflower… All for 24 carb grams…not LOW carb, but certainly not high either… Of course this would be done with no pastry… I would probably add 1/4 cup of parsnips to it all and bring it up to 31 grams, but that would work for me…and if it didn’t, I’d cut out the peas entirely in favor of the carrots and parsnips… Carol P.

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> Julie, > it’s a sort of traditional English dish so they tell me. It usually contains > beef mince, onions, peas, a juicy stock sauce and a topping of mashed > potato. There are variations on the them I’m sure, but it is quite > delicious…

Sounds sort of like Shepard’s pie. Perhaps you could do it ith carrots instread of peas and a thinner topping of potatoes on top. Or there could be a thickener in the sauce. Just a thought. Now… If I could just figure out a way to have beans on toast. Can’t see any way to lower the carbs in that. *L* — http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/

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Peter

You need to cut > back considerably on carbohydrate-heavy foods like fruit, fruit juice, > bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc.

And cottage pi sorry Pete, had to do it.

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> As the weekend comes to an end, I’m scheduled to give my diabetic nurse the > results of my bg level for the first 5 days on Monday. From my initial 26.4 > mmol diagnosis, the last three days have averaged around 10 with the > exception of one self-inflicted spike of 29! How acceptable is an average of > 10? I know I should aim for non-diabetic levels 4-6 therabouts. In the last > 5 days, I’ve tried hard to economise on sugar intake but is 10 mmol such a > big deal? It’s not so far from 6 and a heck of a lot better than 26. I don’t > want to become complacent or let my guard down…

Your numbers are coming down and that’s what’s important. You can’t expect to get it all right in just 5 days. I’d say you’re doing very well! — http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/

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Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for a cottage pie! Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Peter > You need to cut > back considerably on carbohydrate-heavy foods like fruit, fruit > juice, > bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc. > And cottage pi sorry Pete, had to do it.

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What! You mean you are only 32 now! Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As the weekend comes to an end, I’m scheduled to give my diabetic > nurse the > results of my bg level for the first 5 days on Monday. From my > initial 26.4 > mmol diagnosis, the last three days have averaged around 10 with the > exception of one self-inflicted spike of 29! How acceptable is an > average of > 10? I know I should aim for non-diabetic levels 4-6 therabouts. In > the last > 5 days, I’ve tried hard to economise on sugar intake but is 10 mmol > such a > big deal? It’s not so far from 6 and a heck of a lot better than 26. > I don’t > want to become complacent or let my guard down.. > It’s not bad after only 5 days even given the fact you were given > insulin which some aren’t. Don’t stress it, you will reach normal, I > feel it in my bones. Once you know what foods you can eat that won’t > give you a rise you will remember it forever. You will be very aware > when you are about to eat something not so good. I still remember how > I should eat for the weight watchers diet I was on 31 years ago

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> Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for a > cottage pie!

What exactly is IN a cottage pie? You might not have to give it up. Could be that you could change a few ingredients or something. — http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/

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> What! You mean you are only 32 now!

I was a fat baby???

I still remember how – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I should eat for the weight watchers diet I was on 31 years ago

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> Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for a > cottage pie!

Oh dear, I hate to see grown men cry. There is life after cottage pie, trust me!

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I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until then, I have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about those I won’t! Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for > a > cottage pie! > Oh dear, I hate to see grown men cry. There is life after cottage pie, > trust me!

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Julie, it’s a sort of traditional English dish so they tell me. It usually contains beef mince, onions, peas, a juicy stock sauce and a topping of mashed potato. There are variations on the them I’m sure, but it is quite delicious… Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for a > cottage pie! > What exactly is IN a cottage pie? You might not have to give it up. Could > be that you could change a few ingredients or something. > — > http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/

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So…increase the onions, reduce the peas, add something else…celery, mushrooms, broccoli. Be careful about thickening the sauce…try reducing it by boiling it first…concentrates the flavor…then thicken slightly…maybe not as thick as usual…1 – 1/2 T flour to a cup of liquid rather than the usual 2 tablespoons. Top with mashed cauliflower (trust us on this…it’s good). If you’ve been having it with a bottom crust, try eliminating that if the other changes don’t allow you to eat it without adverse bg effect. It won’t be *quite* the same, but may be better than nothing…conversely, you may be able to fix it without the crust and leave the rest the way you’ve been having it…depends on you, your body, etc. Or…you may want to settle for a very small serving of the traditional dish and augment it with a huge salad. There are some things that I don’t care to modify…I want them just as I’ve always had them and am willing to reduce portion size to accomodate them…and willing to hop on a stationary bike right after eating if I just *have* to have something which will give me a problem…exercise is a marvelous tool… Carol P.

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> I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until then, I > have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about those I > won’t! > Peter

Same as with women… > > Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for > a > > cottage pie! > Oh dear, I hate to see grown men cry. There is life after cottage pie, > trust me!

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Dear Peter, welcome to the group. You have been asking such good questions and getting lots of helpful advice, the specialty here. I noticed that many of the ladies are having conversations with you…we love a man with a British accent! My family just returned two weeks ago from a Holiday in London. My favorite city in the world! It was really sad to see the news about H & M and the impact on peoples lives, generations of farming history in danger. Hope can be controlled soon. Now to my own personal nightmare…waiting 25 years to return to UK and can’t eat puddings with custard!!!! :0 ( Sure I could have squeezed in a small portion into my eating plan, but who can have just a few bites!?!?!? My sad lot in life. At least here, so I’m not tortured, almost no one knows the joy of warm custard over a raspberry pud! Or the chocolate tart at the local cafe where they humored me and put an extra large glop of custard for the ever fattening American. :0 ) Memories! Chris

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m sure there is, but it will take a lot of adjusting to. Until then, I > have but dreams of tasty dishes I have known and nightmares about those I > won’t! > Peter > > Is there no let up to such brutality! Aaaaaaaaaargh! My kingdom for > a > > cottage pie! > Oh dear, I hate to see grown men cry. There is life after cottage pie, > trust me!

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It’s not bad after only 5 days even given the fact you were given insulin which some aren’t. Don’t stress it, you will reach normal, I feel it in my bones. Once you know what foods you can eat that won’t give you a rise you will remember it forever. You will be very aware when you are about to eat something not so good. I still remember how I should eat for the weight watchers diet I was on 31 years ago

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>As the weekend comes to an end, I’m scheduled to give my diabetic nurse the >results of my bg level for the first 5 days on Monday. From my initial 26.4 >mmol diagnosis, the last three days have averaged around 10 with the >exception of one self-inflicted spike of 29! How acceptable is an average of >10? I know I should aim for non-diabetic levels 4-6 therabouts. In the last >5 days, I’ve tried hard to economise on sugar intake but is 10 mmol such a >big deal? It’s not so far from 6 and a heck of a lot better than 26. I don’t >want to become complacent or let my guard down…

It’s not very acceptable, to my way of thinking. an average of 10 correlates to an approximate HbA1c value of about 8%. If you look at this retinopathy chart here: http://www.amarillomed.com/Retinopathy_files/slide0002_image002.gif You can see a pretty big increase in risk of retinopathy within 10 years between HbA1c’s of 7% and 8% Staying *well* below 7% (an average of about 8 mmol) is very much worth it. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently

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As the weekend comes to an end, I’m scheduled to give my diabetic nurse the results of my bg level for the first 5 days on Monday. From my initial 26.4 mmol diagnosis, the last three days have averaged around 10 with the exception of one self-inflicted spike of 29! How acceptable is an average of 10? I know I should aim for non-diabetic levels 4-6 therabouts. In the last 5 days, I’ve tried hard to economise on sugar intake but is 10 mmol such a big deal? It’s not so far from 6 and a heck of a lot better than 26. I don’t want to become complacent or let my guard down… Peter

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lotus quote

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is this a haiku? i can’t remember the meter for haiku. anyone? mad — A hangover is the wrath of grapes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Regarding lotuses ~~~ > gentlemen who emerge > from the mud unsplattered ~~~

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mad, although you attribute the quote to me…. I, in fact, did not quote the quote. ’twas K30 who did the deed. Perhaps she’ll answer today… at dawn. ~~~ Nedra www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> is this a haiku? i can’t remember the meter for haiku. anyone? > mad > — > A hangover is the wrath of grapes. "Nedra >> Regarding lotuses ~~~ >> gentlemen who emerge >> from the mud unsplattered ~~~

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Mad wrote ~~is this a haiku? i can’t remember the meter for haiku. anyone?~~ I just happen to know that bit of information as I have a fourth grader this year. The Japanese form of poetry runs 5, 7, 5 – syllables that is. k30a and the water gardening labradors see the labradors at http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm K30A and friends’ pond information page http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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– A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. > Mad wrote ~~is this a haiku? i can’t remember the meter for haiku. anyone?~~ > I just happen to know that bit of information > as I have a fourth grader this year. > The Japanese form of poetry runs > 5, 7, 5 – syllables that is.

Regarding lotuses gentlemen who emerge from the mud unsplattered well, it’s not haiku, but it’s really good. thanks, k30a mad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> k30a and the water gardening labradors > see the labradors at > http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm > K30A and friends’ pond information page > http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Just to make me feel rotten for not being able to sprout the > dratted lotus seeds – well, still one left that I am ignoring (maybe > that is the key?) > found this quote in an article about the Chinese Scholar’s > Garden (Staten Island). > Regarding lotuses ~~~ gentlemen who emerge > from the mud unsplattered ~~~ > k30a and the water gardening labradors > see the labradors at > http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm > K30A and friends’ pond information page > http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

So my seeds were thrown away by some neat member of my household, before I could get to them !!! — pisces

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5-7-5 > is this a haiku? i can’t remember the meter for haiku. anyone? > mad > — > A hangover is the wrath of grapes. >> Regarding lotuses ~~~ >> gentlemen who emerge >> from the mud unsplattered ~~~

– Kellie Final Portrait * A Novel by Kellie Sisson Snider Kass Arts Publicity <http://kassarts.bizland.com>

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Just to make me feel rotten for not being able to sprout the dratted lotus seeds – well, still one left that I am ignoring (maybe that is the key?) found this quote in an article about the Chinese Scholar’s Garden (Staten Island). Regarding lotuses ~~~ gentlemen who emerge from the mud unsplattered ~~~ k30a and the water gardening labradors see the labradors at http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm K30A and friends’ pond information page http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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Kathy, Bless You for trying to get a lotus seed to grow. I would never have the patience for that feat. Thanks for the quote! Up til now I’ve somehow disassociated from the vision of the Buddah emerging from the lotus flower … can’t imagine why that happened. ’Om Mane Padme Om’ ….. I have about 10 aerial leaves on the lotuses so far. The ones that are growing in the mucky sand are huge. I really need to take pics but my digital camera is in the home repair shop in Idaho Nedra www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just to make me feel rotten for not being able to sprout the > dratted lotus seeds – well, still one left that I am ignoring (maybe > that is the key?) > found this quote in an article about the Chinese Scholar’s > Garden (Staten Island). > Regarding lotuses ~~~ gentlemen who emerge > from the mud unsplattered ~~~ > k30a and the water gardening labradors > see the labradors at > http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm > K30A and friends’ pond information page > http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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So my seeds were thrown away by some neat member of my household, before I could get to them !!! — pisces

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– Kellie Final Portrait * A Novel by Kellie Sisson Snider Kass Arts Publicity <http://kassarts.bizland.com>

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Second tattoo!

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Well, I went and did it – I just got done getting my second tattoo. Just a dragon on my upper left arm, but I’m excited!

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>Well, I went and did it – I just got done getting my second tattoo. >Just a dragon on my upper left arm, but I’m excited!

Post a picture please.

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>Post a picture please.

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>>Post a picture please. >*** When you ask a person to post a picture, please be sure >to specify "on the web and post the URL here." >Dig?

Thanks Keith. How fucking stupid of me to forget.

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Can’t post a picture, since I don’t have any idea where my digital camera is right now. As soon as I find it, I’ll post one though! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well, I went and did it – I just got done getting my second tattoo. >Just a dragon on my upper left arm, but I’m excited! > Post a picture please.

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> Can’t post a picture, since I don’t have any idea where my digital > camera is right now. As soon as I find it, I’ll post one though!

BUT not here correct either post on the web with a post here with the url or post direct to a.b.p.b

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Pictures of RA hands?

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> Anybody have access to pics or a digital camera and can take one? I need a good > pic of RA hands for a school project if it isn’t too much trouble??? TIA > Kate Send in the clowns > I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand > by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.

Kate, How soon do you need them. Im in the process of setting up a before and after hand surgery page. Could easily speed up the before shot and send. I also have some images off the web I can search for. Let me know. johnie

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Kate There are some pictures of hands at http://www.duq.edu/PT/RA/EffectsOnJoints.html#Effects Hope this helps Nic Perth WA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Anybody have access to pics or a digital camera and can take one? I need a good >pic of RA hands for a school project if it isn’t too much trouble??? TIA >Kate Send in the clowns >I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand >by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.

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Anybody have access to pics or a digital camera and can take one? I need a good pic of RA hands for a school project if it isn’t too much trouble??? TIA Kate Send in the clowns I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.

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Ping! Judith

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> We haven’t seen hide nor hair of you for days. > You ok?

Am here, am fine, ta for asking. Have been so busy with work that I’ve not had much time for posting, though I’ve been skim reading when I can. (Actually feeling rather sorry for self at all the work am doing these days. Am coming into the office to work all day Saturday and Sunday too. Sniff. Sob. Pity me.) Still not smoking! Was hit by a rather large craving last night after I finished my curry and sat back with a glass of wine, and thought – is this all there is? Isn’t there more coming? Isn’t that thing that I want a cig? Yes yes yes! I spent the next few seconds imagining actually having a cig. That it wouldn’t really make the dinner feel any more complete. And the craving was gone. Judith (wishing weekends were for fun again) Five months, one week, six days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 10 seconds. 4169 cigarettes not smoked, saving

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High Quality 300k pixels Digital Camera

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DIY flowers questions

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Okay, here are my answers: 1.) Floralife works just fine, I’ve never had a problem (YMMV of course). I have really seen no difference in the after-soak performance of quick vs standard, but of course I am not always overly observant. Floral foam for dried flowers is not made to absorb and hold water, the stuff for fresh is. 2.) There are two things you can use… the first is waterproof tape (NOT the stuff used to wrap flower stems which is not sticky) You can buy it in green and clear. The other thing is a plastic thing with four prongs and a flat head (the name of the thing is escaping me right now) you fasten the flat part to the bottom of your container with floral clay and push the foam down on it. You can soak the foam first, or after attaching it to your bowl, it works either way. I recommend using both fastening methods for extra security. Some tips: I really recommend finding a book with step by step instructions of the type of arrangement you want. It will save you a lot of time and frustration, it’s so easy to mess these things up! Trust me! I’m definitely a vase girl Arrangements that are mainly greens with a few flowers are SO much easier for beginners than traditional arrangements with many types of flowers. If you push a stem in too far, pull it out and make a new hole. Simply pulling up the stem to the desired height will create an air bubble under the stem and your flower will wilt quickly. Do NOT use scissors to cut your flowers, use a knife. You can use a paring knife if you want, but many craft stores sell florist knives, and they are pretty inexpensive. Relax and have fun, you may discover a hidden talent! Cat Quote of the month: "The sun is shining – The sun is shining. That is the Magic. The flowers are growing – the roots are stirring. That is the Magic. Being alive is the Magic – Being strong is the Magic. The Magic is in me – the Magic is in me. It’s in every one of us." spoken by Colin Craven in _The Secret Garden_ by Frances Hodgson Burnett

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> Okay, I’m starting my research into making my own centerpieces, and I have a > few questions: > 1. Is there any difference between the brands of wet floral foam? Oasis > seems to be significantly more expensive than Floralife. ($37.50 vs. $29.50 > per case of 48). And, is there a difference in performance between the > standard and quick-saturation foams? (Yes, I know one gets wet faster, I > want to know if one works better.) While we’re at it, what’s the difference > between the foam for dry flowers and the foam for fresh flowers?

The foam for fresh flowers absorbs water, whereas the other stuff does not. Don’t confuse the two! Either brand of fresh floral foam is fine…just hydrate it 24 hours before use. > 2. What do you use to attach to foam brick to the inside of your container? > I have some lovely silverplate centerpiece bowls, but I can’t see an obvious > way to keep the foam from tipping, or bouncing out in transit. There must > be a specific florist supply for this…

Actually, unless your container is HUGE, you won’t need a full brick. For most arrangements I have made, a half-brick is plenty. Cut it in half before hydrating. There is a gum-like substance used to "stick" down the foam in the container…I forget what it is called, as I hardly ever have to use it. You can buy it at craft stores and floral supply stores. > I know that lots of people here would like to do their own flowers, but it > can be a scary proposition.

It is REALLY easy…don’t be intimidated! If you want to go the super-easy route, buy small vases, and just have a small bouquet in each, or a few fresh flowers, and wrap with a ribbon. Esy and elegant. We just bought a digital camera so I plan to > make a step-by-step webpage of my experience so that others can benefit from > what I find out. The only instructional webpages I’ve been able to find > seem to be geared towards people who already know what they’re doing, and > everything comes out looking Martha-Stewart perfect, probably because they > were made by a professional florist. I’ll keep you posted. > Meg

Be sure to check out books in the library about flower arranging…lots of good "how-to" books out there. HTH, Lyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Okay, I’m starting my research into making my own centerpieces, and I have a few questions: 1. Is there any difference between the brands of wet floral foam? Oasis seems to be significantly more expensive than Floralife. ($37.50 vs. $29.50 per case of 48). And, is there a difference in performance between the standard and quick-saturation foams? (Yes, I know one gets wet faster, I want to know if one works better.) While we’re at it, what’s the difference between the foam for dry flowers and the foam for fresh flowers? 2. What do you use to attach to foam brick to the inside of your container? I have some lovely silverplate centerpiece bowls, but I can’t see an obvious way to keep the foam from tipping, or bouncing out in transit. There must be a specific florist supply for this… I know that lots of people here would like to do their own flowers, but it can be a scary proposition. We just bought a digital camera so I plan to make a step-by-step webpage of my experience so that others can benefit from what I find out. The only instructional webpages I’ve been able to find seem to be geared towards people who already know what they’re doing, and everything comes out looking Martha-Stewart perfect, probably because they were made by a professional florist. I’ll keep you posted. Meg

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747 at ATL

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It was either Polar Air Cargo or EL-AL cargo.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Twice this week I have seen an all-white 747 landing at ATL. I know it > wasn’t a 747-400 because it didn’t have the winglets. It could have been > a -200 or a -300 but definitely not a -400. > It had absolutely no markings anywhere, whatsoever… on the sides, > tail, etc… nothing. The first time I saw it landing was Tuesday or > Wednesday around 4pm. The second sighting was Friday at 630pm. It looked > truly strange, having no markings.

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KittyHawk air cargo planes are at times white also, but normally have their name on fuselage tho. Often I see a white 747-? departing/leaving DFW at different hrs/days. Only marking on it is a black or blue `W` shape on tail. Its always too hi to really get an `N` #…guess i`ll have to get a spotting scope huh? can anyone identify this `bird`? tnx,,,larry

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Have seen an all white 747 with a Tower Air Cargo-sticker at Cargo South on a couple of occations. Took a picture if it even, but as the lovely HP Digital camera my wife bought me wouldn’t download, I never could use it.. Never again HP or Circuit City!!!!!! (See other pics at http://home.no.net/mow/ATL/ATL_Index.html )

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> KittyHawk air cargo planes are at times white also, but normally have > their name on fuselage tho. Often I see a white 747-? departing/leaving > DFW at different hrs/days. Only marking on it is a black or blue `W` > shape on tail. Its always too hi to really get an `N` #…guess i`ll > have to get a spotting scope huh? can anyone identify this `bird`? > tnx,,,larry

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>Have seen an all white 747 with a Tower Air Cargo-sticker at Cargo South on >a couple of occations. Took a picture if it even, but as the lovely HP >Digital camera my wife bought me wouldn’t download, I never could use it.. >Never again HP or Circuit City!!!!!! >(See other pics at http://home.no.net/mow/ATL/ATL_Index.html )

I’ve been hearing all sorts of bad stuff on this ng about HP – perhaps they are concentrating their efforts on cameras now.

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Very strange coincidence to see this message, as I observed exactly the same thing (all white 747-200) in Bangkok last Sunday. It particularly struck me as odd as I was in close range in another aircraft and could clearly see the entire fuselage of the taxing white 747. It had no numbers at the rear of the fuselage where I thought they were required for all commercial aircraft. I assumed that perhaps it was an overhaul that included a repainting and it was being taxied around for some sort of check. In article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Twice this week I have seen an all-white 747 landing at ATL. I know it >wasn’t a 747-400 because it didn’t have the winglets. It could have been >a -200 or a -300 but definitely not a -400. >It had absolutely no markings anywhere, whatsoever… on the sides, >tail, etc… nothing. The first time I saw it landing was Tuesday or >Wednesday around 4pm. The second sighting was Friday at 630pm. It looked >truly strange, having no markings.

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Did you see WHERE it parked when it stopped? That will be a huge clue as to what it is…. Did it go to a concourse? Did it go to north or south cargo? Did it just mill around the taxiways as if lost?

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I did not see where it went. Both times, I was driving north on I-75 and the plane passed overhead.

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It was *probably* an unpainted and newly purchased or leaser for Polar or Atlas Air Cargo. I remember a Polar Air Cargo 747 doing a number of touch and goes at ATL during a lull in the normal fray and it only had one simple little logo under the nose/front fuselage and the rest completely white. Those two companies along with Lufthansa, Korean Air and China Air fly 747 cargo planes into ATL and it’s more likely the last 3 would have their livery on the planes.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I did not see where it went. Both times, I was driving north on I-75 and > the plane passed overhead.

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We all know that this plane actually belongs to Weiyun, and JF.;-);-).;-) Erik R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Twice this week I have seen an all-white 747 landing at ATL. >It is a super secret stealth 747 that commutes aliens to Area 51 from various >cities. I have seen it taking off from Mirabel in montreal a few times too. >Nobody has ever seen it land, but only take off. >Seriously, I beleive that there are cargo companies that have these no-name >747s which can be leased to any airline on short notice for special needs.

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Twice this week I have seen an all-white 747 landing at ATL. I know it wasn’t a 747-400 because it didn’t have the winglets. It could have been a -200 or a -300 but definitely not a -400. It had absolutely no markings anywhere, whatsoever… on the sides, tail, etc… nothing. The first time I saw it landing was Tuesday or Wednesday around 4pm. The second sighting was Friday at 630pm. It looked truly strange, having no markings.

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> Twice this week I have seen an all-white 747 landing at ATL.

It is a super secret stealth 747 that commutes aliens to Area 51 from various cities. I have seen it taking off from Mirabel in montreal a few times too. Nobody has ever seen it land, but only take off. Seriously, I beleive that there are cargo companies that have these no-name 747s which can be leased to any airline on short notice for special needs.

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Carnival Paradise Trip Report & Pictures

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Hi everyone. I have posted a trip report and pictures on my web site. We sailed Carnival Paradise, September 16, 2001 to the Eastern Caribbean. The links are in the left column under "New Additions" http://helpersathome.com/Mitch/ Let me know what you think. any questions, just email me. — Mitch Goodman Paradise - September 16, 2001 Imagination – September 14, 2000

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I have been waiting for this Mitch!!!! Thanks! …Lisa It is now Friday 10/5/2001 at 10:23:46 PM Event: Paradise!! Scheduled For 10/28/2001 12:00 PM 22 days 13 hours 36 minutes 14 seconds or 3 weekends or 23 days or 541 hours (361 waking hours) or 32,496 minutes or 1,949,773 seconds – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone. > I have posted a trip report and pictures on my web site. > We sailed Carnival Paradise, September 16, 2001 to the > Eastern Caribbean. > The links are in the left column under "New Additions" > http://helpersathome.com/Mitch/ > Let me know what you think. > any questions, just email me. > — > Mitch Goodman > Paradise - September 16, 2001 > Imagination – September 14, 2000

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>Hi everyone. >I have posted a trip report and pictures on my web site. >We sailed Carnival Paradise, September 16, 2001 to the >Eastern Caribbean. >The links are in the left column under "New Additions" >http://helpersathome.com/Mitch/ >Let me know what you think. >any questions, just email me.

Very nice, thanks for taking time to put up the web pages, looks like you had a lot of fun. My wufe and I wull be going on one of the 11 day cruises in Feb, and we’re really looking forward to this trip. Jim P. There is sobbing of the strong And a pall upon the land But the people in their weeping Bare the iron hand. Beware the people weeping When they bare the iron hand. Herman Melville after the death of Lincoln

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> Very nice, thanks for taking time to put up the web pages, looks like > you had a lot of fun. My wufe and I wull be going on one of the 11 > day cruises in Feb, and we’re really looking forward to this trip. > Jim P.

Wife and I do 11 days on the Paradise in Aug.( so far away) and will be awaiting your report (esp. shore excursions) so take lots of notes and report back Jim. Hey Mitch, I thought my wife took a lot of pictures! Roger

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I never took pictures till I got the digital camera, now I can’t stop. Mitch Wife and I do 11 days on the Paradise in Aug.( so far away) and will be awaiting your report (esp. shore excursions) so take lots of notes and report back Jim. Hey Mitch, I thought my wife took a lot of pictures! Roger

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A Dog Passed Over : (

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Avrama writes:

:But now that I can leave anything :anywhere and know it won’t be chewed :to a fare-thee-well, I sometimes find :myself missing the suspciously innocent :pup who’d open a drawer to get at my :glasses for a quick snack. Perhaps you’d like to borrow Beth for JohnR

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snip > But now that I can leave anything anywhere and know > it won’t be chewed to a fare-thee-well, I sometimes > find myself missing the suspciously innocent pup > who’d open a drawer to get at my glasses for a quick > snack.

LOL!! I thought so too, but last week I put two Oreo cookies under a book on the end table and in the time it took me to go to the toilet.,Taffy had sniffed out and eaten the damn cookies… Terri

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > snip > But now that I can leave anything anywhere and know > it won’t be chewed to a fare-thee-well, I sometimes > find myself missing the suspciously innocent pup > who’d open a drawer to get at my glasses for a quick > snack. > LOL!! > I thought so too, but last week I put two Oreo cookies > under a book on the end table and in the time it took > me to go to the toilet.,Taffy had sniffed out and eaten > the damn cookies… > > Terri

– Ati,grabbed the whole loaf of pate the other night,while I turned my back to refresh the guests drinks… Needless to say,the windows needed opening!! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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> in the time it took me to go to the toilet.,Taffy had sniffed out and eaten the damn cookies…

Oh great, something else you can blame on low-flush toilets!! Tracy Landauer

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BP> Unfortunately,most people arn’t like you,Cin… And NOONE can imagine how BP> many unwanted one year old pups,are "disposed of" : ( BP> BP> And remember Cin,there are going to be a few problems with the new pup,but BP> know you’ll be able to handle it : ) Have a great time! Give the new girl a BP> kiss for me!! Paulette~ — A dogs life is too short… Their only fault BP> really… BP> I’ve also admitted that one of the nicest things about the DoberTeen (aside from the fact that eventually he becomes a DoberMan) is the opportunity provided to look in the mirror every evening and tell myself that I am a saint — I didn’t throw him out the window. But now that I can leave anything anywhere and know it won’t be chewed to a fare-thee-well, I sometimes find myself missing the suspciously innocent pup who’d open a drawer to get at my glasses for a quick snack. avrama & shomer .. nfx v2.7 [C0000] "What is man without the beasts?"

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While I was listening to the Miles Davis CD, "Kind Of Blue," and

[...] > And if you have a cellular phone, Star (and the right attachment), you > can take your laptop right on down to the beach with you and still > stay in touch with the newsgroups. >Yup, that’s what I have,I havn’t tried it out yet,hey that’s the ticket,it’ll >give me something to do while driving,huh?

I hope not, Gracie, it’s bad enough watching women sticking one hand out the window to dry their nails, while holding the cell phone with the other hand — and driving 70 miles per hour with NO HANDS on the STEERING WHEEL. :>( > Heck, you can even e-mail me that study on dog-yawning while you’re > wading in the water…eh? >I won’t be wading,but I will be writng up in the chair in the dunes,when I >come in from the "bone chilling" Nauset water. >Hey, and then when I know how the digital camera works, I can send you guys >pictures from the shack.

Got a digital camera, too, eh? How ’bout some puppy pictures? I’ll even put ‘em up on my site. :>) — Dogman Dogman’s Den http://www.i1.net/~dogman "One four minute session of obedience work, done properly, will prevent behavior problems for 48-72 hours. It’s in the manual." Jerry "Moonbeam" Howe

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While I was listening to the Miles Davis CD, "Kind Of Blue," and

[...] >Also, in summer, I may just follow Paulette’s advice and get a >connection for my laptop so I can dial in from the lake (on the deck at dusk with two >pups splashing in the water in front of me and a good stiff drink on my >right:)

[...] And if you have a cellular phone, Star (and the right attachment), you can take your laptop right on down to the beach with you and still stay in touch with the newsgroups. Heck, you can even e-mail me that study on dog-yawning while you’re wading in the water…eh? ;>) — Dogman Dogman’s Den http://www.i1.net/~dogman "One four minute session of obedience work, done properly, will prevent behavior problems for 48-72 hours. It’s in the manual." Jerry "Moonbeam" Howe

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> While I was listening to the Miles Davis CD, "Kind Of Blue," and > [...] >Also, in summer, I may just follow Paulette’s advice and get a >connection for my laptop so I can dial in from the lake (on the deck at dusk with two >pups splashing in the water in front of me and a good stiff drink on my >right:) > [...] > And if you have a cellular phone, Star (and the right attachment), you > can take your laptop right on down to the beach with you and still > stay in touch with the newsgroups.

Yup, that’s what I have,I havn’t tried it out yet,hey that’s the ticket,it’ll give me something to do while driving,huh? > Heck, you can even e-mail me that study on dog-yawning while you’re > wading in the water…eh?

I won’t be wading,but I will be writng up in the chair in the dunes,when I come in from the "bone chilling" Nauset water. Hey, and then when I know how the digital camera works, I can send you guys pictures from the shack. Paulette~. > ;>) > — > Dogman > Dogman’s Den > http://www.i1.net/~dogman > "One four minute session of obedience work, done properly, > will prevent behavior problems for 48-72 hours. It’s in the manual." > Jerry "Moonbeam" Howe

– A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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> >>What is really LAME is that you are going to be incommunicado the > instant you get the gorgeous red sis, leaving those of us who’ve been > following your stories and sig lines HANGING, desperate for more info!! > Damn cheeky, if you ask me. :) > Tracy Landauer > Oh no, don’t worry….I will still find time every few months or so to > drop you guys a tidbit . > No, seriously–when the pups are napping, I am sure I will be on here > bragging my ear off about her (and Sid too–my best boy still-can’t leave > him out:)

No, there is nothing like a boy dog to win your heart : ) . Also, in summer, I may just follow Paulette’s advice and get a > connection > for my laptop so I can dial in from the lake (on the deck at dusk with two > pups splashing in the water in front of me and a good stiff drink on my > right:)

You probably can get a connection,but mine came with the adapter for the cell phone. But beware this thing can get addciting ; ) I just might not take mine to the shack all the time… I thought I would bring it for my writings,but if I bring it that’s all I would do is post or write emails,and get into trouble heehee> > Also, I may be posting from a new account soon, all. My school is > definitely going to cut me off soon now that I am not paying them anymore >

So you got the connection free? > Make sure you let us know your new name, as I might start RANTING at you,huh??

Hey,who knows I might start RANTINg at you even if you post with your old name,huh? > And now, off to think of ideas to keep visitors away from the "new baby" > for the first few days…I am sure everyone and their cousin will be > dropping by to maul her to death.

Let her be alone,with just your family,at least for a few days,that’s my advice. Paulette~> > Keep smilin’ > (Also, Paulette–if you are reading this: No, no 3 dog family yet! SO has > to actually be able to train any dog, let alone a Chessie , before he gets > one!)

Of course I’m reading this ; ) So he is not a "dogue" person,then? Paulette~ > Keep smilin’ all.

– A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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>>What is really LAME is that you are going to be incommunicado the

instant you get the gorgeous red sis, leaving those of us who’ve been following your stories and sig lines HANGING, desperate for more info!! Damn cheeky, if you ask me. :) Tracy Landauer >>>>> Oh no, don’t worry….I will still find time every few months or so to drop you guys a tidbit . No, seriously–when the pups are napping, I am sure I will be on here bragging my ear off about her (and Sid too–my best boy still-can’t leave him out:). Also, in summer, I may just follow Paulette’s advice and get a connection for my laptop so I can dial in from the lake (on the deck at dusk with two pups splashing in the water in front of me and a good stiff drink on my right:) Also, I may be posting from a new account soon, all. My school is definitely going to cut me off soon now that I am not paying them anymore And now, off to think of ideas to keep visitors away from the "new baby" for the first few days…I am sure everyone and their cousin will be dropping by to maul her to death. Keep smilin’ (Also, Paulette–if you are reading this: No, no 3 dog family yet! SO has to actually be able to train any dog, let alone a Chessie , before he gets one!) Keep smilin’ all. We leave on TUESDAY!!!! Cheers, Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come home—2 days and counting!!)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> heartstrings. And would definitely attract those impulse buyers. > Paulette sayeth:>> > And we don’t want those kind of people,huh? > Hell no. I was one of those "impulsers" with Sid actually….Lucky that it > was *me* is all I can say. Lucky that I didn’t take the commitment as > lightly as I did the purchase! Stupid, stupid at the time–worth it, > worth it now–but I wouldn’t recommend it to ANYONE. > Can imagine all the poor pups who were returned when they outwore their > welcome and their novelty (scowl) > Cheers, > Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come > home—3 days and counting!!)

Unfortunately,most people arn’t like you,Cin… And NOONE can imagine how many unwanted one year old pups,are "disposed of" : ( And remember Cin,there are going to be a few problems with the new pup,but I know you’ll be able to handle it : ) Have a great time! Give the new girl a kiss for me!! Paulette~ — A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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>>> heartstrings. And would definitely attract those impulse buyers.

Paulette sayeth:>> And we don’t want those kind of people,huh? Hell no. I was one of those "impulsers" with Sid actually….Lucky that it was *me* is all I can say. Lucky that I didn’t take the commitment as lightly as I did the purchase! Stupid, stupid at the time–worth it, worth it now–but I wouldn’t recommend it to ANYONE. Can imagine all the poor pups who were returned when they outwore their welcome and their novelty (scowl) Cheers, Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come home—3 days and counting!!)

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What is really LAME is that you are going to be incommunicado the instant you get the gorgeous red sis, leaving those of us who’ve been following your stories and sig lines HANGING, desperate for more info!! Damn cheeky, if you ask me. :) Tracy Landauer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come > home—3 days and counting!!)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cin, I don’t sew. I would like to learn how, though. My mom has a > sewing machine and when this semester is out I’m going to try to learn. > In the meantime I’m not too bad with tape and glue… heheh > I don’t like the term "Looking for a Home" it makes too many think with > their hearts not with their heads… > Hi Paulette, yeah… I would like to find a way to advertise the fact > that they are safe and will be cared for for the rest of their lives, > but that they would like to have their own real family. At the adoption > showcases I always make sure to tell people that the dogs are in no > danger, that we will care for them as long as we need to until the day > they die if need be… But that’s a little much to put on a doggy > jacket.

Well maybe if you had a REAL BIG DOG,huh? > Maybe I’ll create a sign I can hang on my van while I’m at the dog park, > just letting people know and giving a phone number.

Yes, that would be good. Have some cards made up,too. It shouldn’t be much for somethig really basic. I have Brown Dogs everywhere of course even my license plate. The house has a "Brown Dog" flag which I made,and everywhere I go, I have my info with me. The Brown Dogs are even in my antiques ads!!! Their Famous!!! We do advertise in > the paper, but since we are not an official non-profit group (yet!) we > don’t get any special rates or anything.

I think you can get around this,Cin.. I have always gotten a discount… Talk to the editor or the owner… I think you will be able to get a courtesy… I’m a fulltime student with no > income other than a very small child support payment and a small stipend > from my scholarship (which is ending in May when I graduate!)

Hmmmmmmmmmm. You have your hands full! Just do as much as you feel you can,without streesing yourself out,physically,mentally,and monetarily,okay??? and the > other woman I work with just got fired from her job for asking clients > if they wanted to be foster homes for us…

Yes, that was pretty supid,I would say… You shouldn’t ask people to do fostering,as they have to be TAUGHT to foster, so they don’t mess up, and put the poor dog in a "situation" Ask,,, BEG for donations though.. : ) So we are both pretty > broke. So anything I can come up with that won’t cost too much would be > great.

Make up some donation cans. I use to use coffee cans,and put my logo on the white tape I wrapped the cans with… Leave them off around time, and pick up the money weekly. You would be ever so surprised how CHANGE adds up!! Don’t dismay,okay? Keep up the good work,Cin! Paulette~> > Cindi

– A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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> >>>>>I put an ad on Nantucket recently… > It read… > My name is Maggie… > I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising > with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. > I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am > in my 20’s ; ) > Looking for a "soul mate" >>>> > You are right, Paulette…."Looking for a home" kind of does tug at the > heartstrings. And would definitely attract those impulse buyers.

And we don’t want those kind of people,huh? > Paulette~>

– A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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> Uhmmmmm, were the contacts for you or the pooch? <g> > buglady

Well for the pup,of course ; ) Paulette who likes Nantucket Fisherman Guys…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I put an ad on Nantucket recently… > It read… > My name is Maggie… > I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising > with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. > I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am > in my 20’s ; ) > Looking for a "soul mate" > If you are looking too,I have a lot of love to give… > Call Paulette,my friend,over on the mainland. > Maggie > A three year old Chesapeake Bay Retriever > Woof! > You wouldn’t believe how many contacts, I made with this ad…

– A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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Cin, I don’t sew. I would like to learn how, though. My mom has a sewing machine and when this semester is out I’m going to try to learn. In the meantime I’m not too bad with tape and glue… heheh > I don’t like the term "Looking for a Home" it makes too many think with > their hearts not with their heads…

Hi Paulette, yeah… I would like to find a way to advertise the fact that they are safe and will be cared for for the rest of their lives, but that they would like to have their own real family. At the adoption showcases I always make sure to tell people that the dogs are in no danger, that we will care for them as long as we need to until the day they die if need be… But that’s a little much to put on a doggy jacket. Maybe I’ll create a sign I can hang on my van while I’m at the dog park, just letting people know and giving a phone number. We do advertise in the paper, but since we are not an official non-profit group (yet!) we don’t get any special rates or anything. I’m a fulltime student with no income other than a very small child support payment and a small stipend from my scholarship (which is ending in May when I graduate!) and the other woman I work with just got fired from her job for asking clients if they wanted to be foster homes for us… So we are both pretty broke. So anything I can come up with that won’t cost too much would be great. Cindi

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Uhmmmmm, were the contacts for you or the pooch? <g> buglady take out the dog before replying

<snip> I put an ad on Nantucket recently… It read… My name is Maggie… I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am in my 20’s ; ) Looking for a "soul mate" If you are looking too,I have a lot of love to give… Call Paulette,my friend,over on the mainland. Maggie A three year old Chesapeake Bay Retriever Woof! You wouldn’t believe how many contacts, I made with this ad… Paulette~ Feeling like "Moondancing" while listening to Van’s great new album, "Back On Top" still the "Brown Eyed Girl" A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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>>>>>I put an ad on Nantucket recently…

It read… My name is Maggie… I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am in my 20’s ; ) Looking for a "soul mate" >>>> You are right, Paulette…."Looking for a home" kind of does tug at the heartstrings. And would definitely attract those impulse buyers. I like the ad above:) I see these in my local paper every so often. I think they really do stand apart from the "Giveaway" or "For adoption" ads. Cheers, Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come home—4 days and counting!!)

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> Uhmmmmm, were the contacts for you or the pooch? <g>

Cute…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> buglady > take out the dog before replying > <snip> > I put an ad on Nantucket recently… > It read… > My name is Maggie… > I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising > with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. > I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am > in my 20’s ; ) > Looking for a "soul mate" > If you are looking too,I have a lot of love to give… > Call Paulette,my friend,over on the mainland. > Maggie > A three year old Chesapeake Bay Retriever > Woof! > You wouldn’t believe how many contacts, I made with this ad…

I bet! WEG!!!

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>What about horse blanket type jackets for the >pups which read: "Looking for a home" or >something similiar….I think its a neat idea! >People are bound to ask even if they are not >looking to adopt, and if you hand out cards, >they will let their friends know, and their >friends.

Cin I don’t like the term "Looking for a Home" it makes too many think with their hearts not with their heads… I have "Brown Dogs" Scarves made up for my dogs,also T’s….for humans too! Other designs I made up were dog silouettes of all kinds on a solid background,in different colours,from beagles to "pointy ears" to retrievers….so everyone would buy them,because one of them would look like their dog! I would sell them for a few uses,beside scarves. They made GREAT NAPKINS! The thing here,is instead of someone feeling sorry,for the dogs, they don’t, they feel HONOURED, to be able to adopt your dog! I put an ad on Nantucket recently… It read… My name is Maggie… I love runs on the beach,walks in the rain,snuggling,S’conset,cruising with the top down,midnight swims,gourmet meals,and sailing. I am smart,physical,have brown hair,beautiful eyes,a great body,and am in my 20’s ; ) Looking for a "soul mate" If you are looking too,I have a lot of love to give… Call Paulette,my friend,over on the mainland. Maggie A three year old Chesapeake Bay Retriever Woof! You wouldn’t believe how many contacts, I made with this ad… Paulette~ Feeling like "Moondancing" while listening to Van’s great new album, "Back On Top" still the "Brown Eyed Girl" A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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>>>> and I sometimes take the foster

dogs, and I have always wondered how to advertise the fact that they are available for adoption. I thought of making little vests for them to wear, and carrying around business cards so people I meet can call me or getting thier phone numbers…. Your post has me motivated to give it a go. >>>> Hi Cindi, Do you sew? I have turned this idea around in my head many times as well. What about horse blanket type jackets for the pups which read: "Looking for a home" or something similiar….I think its a neat idea! People are bound to ask even if they are not looking to adopt, and if you hand out cards, they will let their friends know, and their friends. Let us know if you can come up with anything! Cheers, Cin & Sid (85# spoiled lapdog—waiting for his gorgeous red sis to come home—4 days and counting!!)

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Paulette who never thought she would need to type,finds herself always making mistakes AFTER her message is POSTED,but of course… Ya see, God gets me ; ) >It is a good feeling when you don’t have to be >panicked or pressured,bcause you can’t find >anybody for your dog,because , NOW, after all >your hard work,you have been WAITING in line >to interview.

Feeling like "Moondancing" while listening to Van’s great new album, "Back On Top" still the "Brown Eyed Girl" A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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Paulette, those are great ideas! I have been very very lucky with the dogs I’ve chosen to rescue myself, and only one has come back to me. I think I make some pretty good choices when I’m down at the pound, and I also have found some great homes. But a woman I work with, wow, she’s had 4 dogs returned just recently. She also already had 4 other dogs she was fostering, and a couple that she had rescued but that were in other foster homes. So that’s 10 dogs she’s currently responsible for. She absolutely can’t stand to leave any dog behind at the shelter and so she is constantly in a state of high anxiety… It really sucks, and I feel bad for her, and I wish she’d slow down a bit, for her own mental health. Our group recently took in a bunch of cats that a cat person had rescued; she finally had some sort of mental breakdown and threatened to kill herself. I hate to see people get to that point, but if anything will do it, it’s rescue. I’m feeling bad about some cats I was supposed to pick up from a shelter nearby me… They decided that since the cats were pregnant (due any day) they’d just put them down instead of letting rescue take them. I don’t know how I feel about that. They said they don’t want to fill up all their potential kitten homes this soon, in April, because come August they will have to be killing kittens. There might be some merit to that, but what bugs me is nobody can know for sure, and we had foster homes and vet care lined up for those pregnant cats and about 5 pre-screened people on the list for kittens… Well, there’s no shortage of kittens now that it’s spring, so maybe it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but it’s sad to think of on an individual basis. Anyway, I’m thinking of trying some of your ideas. I go to this huge dog park almost every weekend anyway, and I sometimes take the foster dogs, and I have always wondered how to advertise the fact that they are available for adoption. I thought of making little vests for them to wear, and carrying around business cards so people I meet can call me or getting thier phone numbers…. Your post has me motivated to give it a go. cindi

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I was thinking about how John R is feeling,that no matter how much time and work you put into rescue,there will always be that dog that get’s passed over. Or how you find a good home finally, and five more come in that week <sigh> It use to be like that for me,too… : ( I have found a way to make the people really want to come and adopt my dogs. You just gotta make sure they know about you. It is a very good thing to go to your local newspaper and tell them you would like to write a column about the dogs you have available for adoption. When I would write my column,I would take different avenues.. Not the LabX male one year old available for adoption thing… I would write ,perhaps, if these dogs were 60’s movie stars,who would they be… That big lanky golden guy,why he is Troy Donahue, and the girl dog with the red coloured coat,and the gorgeous build, meowing up to him, is none other than Ann Margret! You get the drift… I would have the dogs talking to each other,about what was happening,and how they got there… Talking about me, and spoofing myself. It made for entertaining reading,and not just the boring" for adoption descriptions"… You’d be amazed how many people really tuned in. Even if they didn’t want to adopt a dog they sent a donation,as they liked to read the column. I would write about the day to day things happening… sometimes very funny….sometimes very sad… I got them interested.. That’s what you have to do. Get the attention of people. So maybe this is an option for you people that are having a hard time finding wonderful homes for your beloved escue dogs. Another thing I did, was have a show on the local TV station,(Yes, I’m a ham, but you guys know that already… ; ) I would have a few dogs with me,and let them really show themselves off,and they did. There are many more things you can do to promote your dogs… Dog Bazaars,walks,picnics,parties,dog dances,dog t shirts,bumper stickers,scarves,I’ve done them all… It is work,but it is fun too, AND it brings in MONEY and ADOPTIONS!! I’m not talking spur of the moment adoptions here. None of my dogs were EVER available for adoption, at any of these events, NO WAY. It makes too much of in impulse buyer syndrome. It is a good feeling when you don’t have to be panicked or pressured,bcause you can’t find anybody for your dog,because , NOW, after all your hard work,you have been WAITING in line to interview. ALL wonderful thoughts to dog people!!! Just my thoughts.. Woof Paulette~ and her FIFTEEN PUPS!!!! Feeling like "Moondancing" while listening to Van’s great new album, "Back On Top" still the "Brown Eyed Girl" A dogs life is too short… Their only fault really…

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